I agree

We need to be the 'victims' who are defending ourselves and to do that we need A more people and B compassion from non-combatants

We will be painted as terrorists either way, just try to stack the cards in our favor.

Hearts and minds before 2 in the heart 1 in the mind. and okie is right. Either way we are gonna be the bad guys but to win we need to have support from the people of the US not necessarily the people of the World

I agree with bard to a point...at some time someone is going to have to be a catalyst for the movement, though. Becuase people are reactive...not proactive like celtic said

The hearts and minds are necessary and long game...

Unfortunately that is also correct, we need efficient propagandists in the movement.

We may be stuck in the short gane for now with all this quarentine biz

It shoukd have been Duncan lemp

But that's another convo

I'm sorey for interjecting

We aren't at he necessary 10%

There have been 1000s of duncan lemp situations

Waco was one that should have blown up in their face, especially in the south.

1000s of red flags served in the last couple years

Duncan Lemp can be a martyr for our cause. Hopefully his sacrafice can lead to minimal or no conflict. We were given an opportunity to help fight this with legislature before it started. We need to use this to show people that what happened to him is the result of overreaching

Agreed, but what about Philando Castile? What about the countless others that have had the same shit happen?

If we can get enough people on our side, More then Richmond, then we can show them and the world that as of now we are reasonable men (and women) who dont want to see conflict

Duncan's case is garnering boog attention becuase he was one of "us"....the whole point is...they are all us!

Truth

Flashpoints are tricky, it will be tricky to get the populace to side with us. The government needs to majorly fuck up and kill a bunch of civilians with a lot of media coverage to put it bluntly.

Like corona and martial quarentine?

Done

But our revolution nearly 250 years ago was started by things such as the Boston Tea party

The worst is yet to come

But the media isnt on our side. And people already dont trust the media

Well let's gather the masses

They didn't just start shooting, they responded to Lexington and Concord

True

The tea party was showing out because regular folks were fed up

Facebook is more powerful than the media and weve seen that

That was one famous instance

The ones in those days were no more proactive about killing redcoats than the rest of us

Lexington was the flashpoint. Everything prior was a build up

People assembled hundreds of times in resistance to the crown in local places...

Did I say boston tea party I meant boston massacre

Still a buildup. It was lexington that finally did it

Everytime they were promised improvement and sent home...then the leaders were killed or imprisoned

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Were at the start boys. It will happen eventually

Have you ever felt so upset and apathetic that if something that normally makes you feel good happens, but now you're just "meh, whatever, dont give a crap"?