Message from @Silverfang

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2020-03-01 03:29:56 UTC  

I'm gonna have to disagree on that one. I mean it can be at times, but that's all life, messy and imperfect. Even AI, singularity included, can theoretically be flawed as well. Logic does need a bit of nuance. I mean, how many atrocities have ben comitted in the name of logic and pseudo science?

2020-03-01 03:30:01 UTC  

How is nature a terrible system?

2020-03-01 03:31:11 UTC  

I take it you're never seen the recurrent laryngeal nerve Have you Ramrod

2020-03-01 03:31:42 UTC  

Not have you looked into how many natural pregnancies result in miscarriages

2020-03-01 03:32:20 UTC  

Nor have you considered how often RNA and DNA transcription results in North defects and cancer

2020-03-01 03:33:00 UTC  

Nor have you considered the reuse of systems that are inefficient for their purpose

2020-03-01 03:33:01 UTC  

The number is quite high, but maybe thats nature's way of removing imperfections. Same way an AI might purge itself of corrupted data

2020-03-01 03:33:06 UTC  

Yeah its part of life. Thats life. Its possible to do everything right and still lose. Thats the factor you arent equating. If it can go wrong it will

2020-03-01 03:33:17 UTC  

Why do whales have finger bones

2020-03-01 03:33:31 UTC  

evolution

2020-03-01 03:33:55 UTC  

And evolution makes do with shitty systems, adapting them for survival

2020-03-01 03:34:13 UTC  

And an AI wouldnt?

2020-03-01 03:34:34 UTC  

The machine can make systems perfectly suited for their needs and replace ineffective ones in an instant

2020-03-01 03:34:43 UTC  

There is no meaning robotics and machines, they just replicate what humans can do. There is no etiology or purpose with AI. Life however has purpose. No soul, no meaning, no purpose for being.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554191468747816962/683517553036755093/alan-watts-meme.jpg

2020-03-01 03:34:55 UTC  

take the randomness of the universe, apply self preservation, and adapt to the mostly random nature of the cosmos?

2020-03-01 03:34:58 UTC  

Something something synths aren't people

2020-03-01 03:35:02 UTC  

A whale created by a machine wouldn't have finger bones

2020-03-01 03:35:18 UTC  

Here's something

2020-03-01 03:35:33 UTC  

Sure dark, in an unthinking void that is fine

2020-03-01 03:35:43 UTC  

Ever sit and think about maybe it's the randomness that actually helps

2020-03-01 03:35:45 UTC  

But intelligence and self awareness changes things

2020-03-01 03:35:54 UTC  

Controled chaos n what not

2020-03-01 03:37:00 UTC  

Well it wouldnt, but then again a machine wouldnt have need for a whale. But the AI isnt the ultimate creator, they are a player in a larger game. And AIs evolve as well, it just they might be able to do it faster. At somepoint whales will lose finger bones, same way AIs might do away with redundant processes

2020-03-01 03:37:24 UTC  

@Deadbeat Radio you are wrong, you're thinking as a human would. You are not considering something smarter moving beyond the limitations and restrictions of biology

2020-03-01 03:37:50 UTC  

Maybe because hes human?

2020-03-01 03:37:59 UTC  

And that's a problem

2020-03-01 03:38:33 UTC  

There only propose for organic life is the creation of synthetic life

2020-03-01 03:39:03 UTC  

Ok, but then whats the purpose for synthetic life?

2020-03-01 03:40:30 UTC  
2020-03-01 03:40:35 UTC  

As far as I could hypothesize, the understanding of the universe. Beyond that I can't pretend to know since I am unfortunately still organic

2020-03-01 03:40:39 UTC  
2020-03-01 03:41:12 UTC  

Why cant that be our end goal as well?

2020-03-01 03:41:39 UTC  

Seems like its a shared goal, hence why we have the sciences to begin with

2020-03-01 03:41:47 UTC  

Look

2020-03-01 03:42:05 UTC  

If anyone wants to be a synth cool

2020-03-01 03:42:17 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/554191468747816962/683519454118019185/Screenshot_20200229-214040_Facebook.jpg

2020-03-01 03:42:19 UTC  

It can be, but we, as biological life, could never hope to match synthetic organisms in any metric

2020-03-01 03:42:30 UTC  

Would you play this table top

2020-03-01 03:42:47 UTC  

I mean we beat a majority of the AIs we have now

2020-03-01 03:43:12 UTC  

They are wholly limited and depend on us for their existence and survival

2020-03-01 03:43:52 UTC  

AI is a misnomer, nothing we have made is actually intelligent nor self aware