even with consent?

unless they can give consent

you cant give consent at 10 years old though

seems reasonable

Legislation would be harder to pass with that in it

Im not saying whats harder to pass Im saying whats morally right

Im a bit more pragmatic. It would be better to pass the genital mutilation bill now and fight for piercings/mods later

Legislation is a different conversation entirely though

I can agree with that but ultimately both need to be pasted

how many minors get their genitals modified/mutilated on their own accord?

none should be able to

i wasn't asking the "should"

i was the asking the "who do"

also wouldn't religious freedom be a core part of the counter argument?

though it would be easy to point out that religious organisations have had to make other concessions in the recent past.

no child can consent

like under 16 its not consent for the most part

also, would that eventually swing right around and threaten things like catholic transubstantiation? on grounds that canonically it is human flesh/blood being consumed?

16?

tbqh 18 is not a particularly good marker for maturity

that all goes back to school leaving age and military conscription

current neuroscience and psychology kind of points in the direction that mid twenties is when an individual is likely to make mature and reasoned decisions.

also the more open/libertine a society is, the more young idiots can screw themselves up.

I can agree to that, the issue is I dont know where to put the age marker for it

definately older than 18

well in theory anyway

there is a futility on apply rules and restrictions on an age demographic that is predisosed to rebelling and disregarding authority.

Im all for baseline laws (18+) with abilities to opt out

Like drivers ed

you can do something if you take a (shitty) government course on autonomy

can be a school extracarricular

well if you're in the USA, the 26th (?) ammendment pretty much locks the age of majority at 18

there is a complication from all the computer tech we've applied in the workforce

it's made the entry level jobs of old redundant

so the younger generations will need more and more specialised training, and on going training

or even retraining depending on the sector

Im cool with that

Im glad im not a farmer

lol

you mean "agricultural engineer"?

Im a software dev, so there is plenty of great enginnering in ag