but somehow its the priests that keep getting caught for that and not the rabbis

ya as an israeli I am for banning all forms of body modification unless the child is old enough to consent and its not for a medical reason

Okay well in a sterile hospital my circumcision hasn’t impacted me. To each his own.

That you know of*

Sure, but would you have preferred to have it done as a conscious choice?

the issue is that it shouldnt be the choice of your parents it should be yours

Isn't it more ethical to give boys bodily autonomy?

Chopping of skin with tons of nerve endings

(Same with girls too, but MGM is more popular in more places)

that affects sexual function

@Abel actually it happens to girls more, not genital mutilation but ear piercings

Piercings heal though

no its a body modification and if they cant consent then it shouldnt happen

Im more concerned with the perminance of it

its purely cosmetic

It heals, does it not?

its still scars

permanently

I agree its wrong, but no where comparable

no way*

Im saying ban it all

dont leave any of it out

Im not being sarcastic, all forms of body modification that are not purely for medical reasons should be banned

even with consent?

unless they can give consent

you cant give consent at 10 years old though

seems reasonable

Legislation would be harder to pass with that in it

Im not saying whats harder to pass Im saying whats morally right

Im a bit more pragmatic. It would be better to pass the genital mutilation bill now and fight for piercings/mods later

Legislation is a different conversation entirely though

I can agree with that but ultimately both need to be pasted

how many minors get their genitals modified/mutilated on their own accord?

none should be able to

i wasn't asking the "should"

i was the asking the "who do"

also wouldn't religious freedom be a core part of the counter argument?

though it would be easy to point out that religious organisations have had to make other concessions in the recent past.

no child can consent

like under 16 its not consent for the most part

also, would that eventually swing right around and threaten things like catholic transubstantiation? on grounds that canonically it is human flesh/blood being consumed?