Message from @Vetus

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2018-12-29 07:38:47 UTC  

lol

2018-12-29 07:38:56 UTC  

it's all bullshit

2018-12-29 07:39:00 UTC  

I never claimed any country was communist

2018-12-29 07:39:10 UTC  

fair enough

2018-12-29 07:39:24 UTC  

forgive me

2018-12-29 07:39:30 UTC  

Real communism has never been established, and probably wil never be.

2018-12-29 07:39:40 UTC  

And socialism is the absolute worst way to try

2018-12-29 07:39:50 UTC  

what is the difference

2018-12-29 07:39:55 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-29 07:39:55 UTC  

between socialism and communism

2018-12-29 07:40:06 UTC  

i don't know

2018-12-29 07:40:09 UTC  

Communism, socialism...same shit

2018-12-29 07:40:10 UTC  

Communism is the utopian state, it's is stateless

2018-12-29 07:40:20 UTC  

And classless

2018-12-29 07:40:24 UTC  

Afaik communism is an end goal that socialism is the most common vehicle people try to obtain it

2018-12-29 07:40:41 UTC  

The theory is that socialism would result in he government eroding

2018-12-29 07:40:46 UTC  

seems reasonable Witt, but not precise enough at all

2018-12-29 07:40:58 UTC  

I should just look it up now

2018-12-29 07:40:58 UTC  

And the end state will be a stateless, classless society

2018-12-29 07:41:23 UTC  

well

2018-12-29 07:41:27 UTC  

Both communism and socialism are cancer

2018-12-29 07:41:34 UTC  

here is a probably biased and private-funded wiki talking about it so

2018-12-29 07:41:41 UTC  

keep that in mind

2018-12-29 07:41:52 UTC  

Well what other info are you looking for? One is a governmental model based on redistribution, one is simply a society without class

2018-12-29 07:42:05 UTC  

i'm looking for a definition like that, witt

2018-12-29 07:42:06 UTC  

anyway

2018-12-29 07:42:20 UTC  

as a capitalist society, we still have social programs that resemble communism

2018-12-29 07:42:21 UTC  

"Real" communism will be achieved with Capitalism eliminating scarcity before Socialism works

2018-12-29 07:42:40 UTC  

And with automation

2018-12-29 07:42:42 UTC  

yeah, i said that marx said that true communism only happens through capitalism

2018-12-29 07:42:50 UTC  

Star Trek is more realistic than Socialism

2018-12-29 07:42:54 UTC  

however i honestly don't know much about it

2018-12-29 07:43:04 UTC  

look

2018-12-29 07:43:06 UTC  

Then let's go horseshoe

2018-12-29 07:43:14 UTC  

we have public schools, free health care (to a degree)

2018-12-29 07:43:19 UTC  

social security

2018-12-29 07:43:21 UTC  

but

2018-12-29 07:43:26 UTC  

we are still capitalist

2018-12-29 07:43:29 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-29 07:43:32 UTC  

Hold on, those aren't communistic. Those are socialistic.