Message from @devpav

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2018-12-29 14:59:03 UTC  

or, at least, when we do get something done, it'll be actually good

2018-12-29 14:59:26 UTC  

Right, but why wouldn't there be two huge factions competing for the median voter in the equilibrium state? @GoldenPhoenix

2018-12-29 14:59:36 UTC  

Freedom of assembly is the freedom to associate or dissociate voluntarily.

2018-12-29 15:00:23 UTC  

how so? the runoff system eliminates strategic voting

2018-12-29 15:00:41 UTC  

which is dumb and anti-democratic

2018-12-29 15:00:52 UTC  

(I know we're a republic, but still)

2018-12-29 15:01:53 UTC  

The only way a third party would win in the US is by claiming the vast centrist no man's land in between the two hyperpolarized major parties.

2018-12-29 15:01:54 UTC  

Right, but the winning strategy for politicians is still to achieve a plurality of the vote, so the incentives haven't changed at all. There would still be a tendency towards two parties each controlling about 50% of the electorate and trying to wiggle for that extra 1%

2018-12-29 15:03:23 UTC  

not necessarily, because it would allow for third parties to "band together" and it would also split the major parties by allowing same-party competition, splintering the voter base further. it might still be 2 parties, but it could balance out to be a 3 or 4 party system, as opposed to the forced 2 party system that FPTP enforces

2018-12-29 15:04:14 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-12-29 15:04:27 UTC  

no, they should vote people. Not Partys

2018-12-29 15:04:38 UTC  

Limit the Size of the Partys

2018-12-29 15:04:45 UTC  

They should vote policies.

2018-12-29 15:04:50 UTC  

^

2018-12-29 15:04:52 UTC  

or change the Party System completely

2018-12-29 15:04:56 UTC  

oh nah

2018-12-29 15:05:01 UTC  

No direct democracy pls

2018-12-29 15:05:11 UTC  

I don't trust you people

2018-12-29 15:05:26 UTC  

Nobody wants direct plebiscite democracy.

2018-12-29 15:05:49 UTC  

I'd rather vote for a president than vote for a group of people that *might* vote for the president for me

2018-12-29 15:05:52 UTC  

Certainly not at the federal level.

2018-12-29 15:06:25 UTC  

I'd rather have a local government with much more power than the president.

2018-12-29 15:07:00 UTC  

A bit of decentralization of power would be much welcomed, especially in these troubling times

2018-12-29 15:07:13 UTC  

well yes. I'd rather have local leadership, which has the most control in the local sector, and our federal government only intervening in multi-state issues

2018-12-29 15:07:18 UTC  

I think everyone wants a lot more than a bit.

2018-12-29 15:07:38 UTC  

but anyway, I got a date. see you losers later

2018-12-29 15:07:39 UTC  

But if I had my way I'd probably make the feds too weak and we'd lose all that sweet territory we just spent trillions conquering

2018-12-29 15:07:56 UTC  

Lose it to whom?

2018-12-29 15:08:04 UTC  

Whoever wants it back?

2018-12-29 15:08:28 UTC  

idk, whoever has the stronger army, since I'd slash our defense budget that's way too high

2018-12-29 15:08:35 UTC  

The territory wouldn't go anywhere during a secession breakup.

2018-12-29 15:08:38 UTC  

but that's just me

2018-12-29 15:09:16 UTC  

I'm not talking about US territory, I mean the foreign land we've got boots stomping on

2018-12-29 15:09:38 UTC  

All our military bases that support the puppet governments we've painstakingly built up in the past 60 years

2018-12-29 15:10:06 UTC  

let them die

2018-12-29 15:10:17 UTC  

Well, sure, a breakup would cancel a lot of American imperial ventures.

2018-12-29 15:10:18 UTC  

puppet governments are bad

2018-12-29 15:10:35 UTC  

Puppet governments are bad when you have to live underneath one

2018-12-29 15:10:48 UTC  

yes, and how many people are we making live underneath them?

2018-12-29 15:10:51 UTC  

that's immoral

2018-12-29 15:10:52 UTC  

But I don't, and I like my free trade coffee