and look how those countries turned out

you get off free for the first case of domestic abuse, then that's it

@Maddie kind of when talking about internalization vs externalization of agression

wdym

i mean not beat the shit out of the kid, inflict short term pain with no lasting consequences is ideal

so basically some families need one case of domestic violence

i dont believe that physical punishment is needed to discipline tho

just one

thats why you get your ass hit

lol

no permanent damage

The safest country on Earth is Singapore. They beat your ass if you commit a crime.

I think kids that don't encounter some sort of physical harm never really integrate the concept that others around them are real people, and have troubles with empathy

why do you think households with no fathers have high crime? imo its because theres the implicit or explicit threat that your dad could beat your ass

i used to be very anti punishment, but now that i've seen how different kids can be, i don't know anymore

I was kind of a jerk until I got my ass kicked on the bus ride home, and now I'm a nice person

the son isn't the alpha male of the house

i dont think thats true tho. black women notoriously beat the shit out of their kids if they misbehave and they still have high crime rates

oh no i believe they must experience physical harm

just not by my hand

let them fight with other kids

@momoneymoproblems stab the kid?

I'd have quite a bit of trouble doing it myself

@Maddie well their problem is the lack of fathers

But black women couldn't really beat the shit out of the kid, when he decides nah fuck this

I know that excessive beatings actually have the opposite effect

that's the main key

Well what I was pointing out was different

which is like why young black men are so aggressive

i mean beatings is a shit term imo because that implies abuse

with white liberals it's the lack of beating ur kif

idk about that

gotta combine it

look at asians @Maddie

i was beat as a kid and i needed 4 years of therapy

just to not dissociate

Not if the kiddo is right leaning

Man i was stronger than my mum at like 13/14 years

Then bust out the belt

father and mother and have both parents

i dunno, sjws seem to have a lot of shitty childhoods