Message from @momoneymoproblems

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2019-01-29 01:05:24 UTC  

Reconquista wasnt a crusade though.

2019-01-29 01:05:28 UTC  

It was

2019-01-29 01:05:29 UTC  

Crusades were basically using religion as an excuse to conquer.

2019-01-29 01:05:31 UTC  

No it wasnt.

2019-01-29 01:05:32 UTC  

sanctioned by the pope

2019-01-29 01:05:45 UTC  

It's a crusade against infidels, a holy war, literally a crusade

2019-01-29 01:05:50 UTC  

but you can pretend it wasnt

2019-01-29 01:05:57 UTC  

same thing can be said about jihad.

2019-01-29 01:06:01 UTC  

So was the crusade against the nordic pagans

2019-01-29 01:06:28 UTC  

The crusades were not in self defense

2019-01-29 01:06:34 UTC  

were though

2019-01-29 01:06:51 UTC  

byzantium got analed by Turks for hundreds of years

2019-01-29 01:07:00 UTC  

Byzantium owned everything down to egypt

2019-01-29 01:07:04 UTC  

their fault for losing wars.

2019-01-29 01:07:07 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-01-29 01:07:08 UTC  

Yep

2019-01-29 01:07:23 UTC  

btw if ur jew then ur not muslim

2019-01-29 01:07:25 UTC  

come at me

2019-01-29 01:07:28 UTC  

i'm not a jew.

2019-01-29 01:07:31 UTC  

fuck

2019-01-29 01:07:31 UTC  

well ok then ill just conquer anyone and say its their fault cause u lost

2019-01-29 01:07:39 UTC  

so you lose a war and you fuck over the neighbor?

2019-01-29 01:07:39 UTC  

not great logic

2019-01-29 01:07:55 UTC  

Tbh, Byzantium also got sacked by crusaders 😃

2019-01-29 01:08:02 UTC  

that's the logic that people followed back then.

2019-01-29 01:08:13 UTC  

byzantium got sacked when it was a shell of its former self

2019-01-29 01:08:22 UTC  

Well under that logic then the left is right to blame the whites for the colonism

2019-01-29 01:08:25 UTC  

Not when it was a true empire

2019-01-29 01:08:37 UTC  

the empires fall thats the nature of society

2019-01-29 01:08:55 UTC  

Still, that puts the whole "holy war" into question, when christian crusaders sack a christian city

2019-01-29 01:09:05 UTC  

they werent holy tho

2019-01-29 01:09:09 UTC  

They were an excuse to invade

2019-01-29 01:09:19 UTC  

Catholic crusader sacked an orthodox city

2019-01-29 01:09:32 UTC  

I'd say both. Since they were sanctioned by the pope, they were holy in essence

2019-01-29 01:09:39 UTC  

But economic in practice

2019-01-29 01:09:59 UTC  

It was viewed as retaliation for byzantium massacring roman catholics in 1182

2019-01-29 01:10:01 UTC  

i wonder is the crusaders got PTSD after raping muslim women

2019-01-29 01:10:15 UTC  

i don't thing PTSD was a thing back then.

2019-01-29 01:10:31 UTC  

they didn't invent PTSD until the first world war

2019-01-29 01:10:35 UTC  

@momoneymoproblems I bet the Jihads were perfectly reasonable and justifiable to the muslims as well.

2019-01-29 01:10:46 UTC  

And venice basically financed that crusade