Message from @chad46
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you can prove the existence of gravity with even a simple pendulum
But when people try and ask questions after making a claim which can't be proven it's just bs
I'd like that! And I won't BS anything/pretend to explain something I don't know about. You should always understand your subject before arguing for it in debate.
That what most people do in here - come in advocating for something they actually know very little about.
@l.caudri you can't prove the existence of gravity.
Yeah for sure dude
I love to learn and if I'm wrong about the Earth's shape I'll say it like a man
I've already stopped using some evidence for the FE because they weren't correct and it was proven to me to be false so I admitted that
🤷‍♂️ You gotta be honest in this realm of debate
Absolutely! I'll openly admit problems on the opposite side too - gravity has problems and is an unfinished theory. NASA clearly has doctored footage that makes me suspicious.
Cool
I'm getting ready for work give me a few minutes
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@Drewski4343 What footage presented would you said NASA has doctored? It's interesting to if a glober could admit that
Their green screen stuff that shows feet or whole people disappearing.
That's weird. There's no need for that.
Yeah totally
Why don't you think people acknowledge that more?
I've got to head out now it would be nice to talk about this again soon enough
hafel keating just showed that atomic clocks are effected by different conditions
Probably because people are biased and are quick to sweep stuff like that under the rug and dismiss it.
For sure @floridaswamptrash! (Sorry, I got called away from my desk)
The conditions were meticulously minimized in subsequent experiments for Hafele–Keating. Each test produced results that were consistent with GR predictions. It's very good evidence of time dilation.
so how was the clock protected from the earth magnetic field?
https://www.relativity.li/en/epstein2/read/i0_en/i6_en
```The three clocks were carefully shielded against vibration, temperature variations, pressure variations and the influences of magnetic fields. The differences due to construction between the 6 clocks used in the experiment were accurately measured, before, between and after the flights, and their values were corrected according to these measurements.```
Not sure *how* they did, exactly.
but it was apparently taken into account during the Maryland experiment.
and did they do the test without the sheilding from the magnetic field to see the difference?
That I don't know.
would you have done that?
so the clocks go faster the higher they are
and slower depending on how fast they move
I personally would have tested the container beforehand to make sure it provided accurate shielding over a secondary trip.
Yes, that's right.
how was that calculated
the expected value that is
but I can certainly see the benefit of a second trip *without* the shielding.
and did they record how much vibration the clocks experienced
Equations were based on predictions from GR and SR for gravitational and kinematic time dilation respectively.
I'm not sure about the vibrations, but I would imagine that was tested beforehand to make sure it wasn't affected otherwise the container would not have been used.
Basically, they claim the clocks were properly shielded and I'm taking their word on it.
you have a generous imagination