Plus the vaccine is not that effective specially the flu

Go through the <#552285797038948364> channel and read some of the information posted

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Buddy measles and flu have killed more people than Ebola and HIV

It’s the infectious disease that has caused the most deaths

@shakz7 are you trolling or are you seriously that retarded? do you even look up the death toll of HIV compared to the flu or measles? it doesn't even come close.

Oh sorry I meant malaria

Why do I always get mixed up

Malaria is mostly present in 3rd world countries and causes most death in Africa and other undeveloped countries, not sure why you would compare to us when it's not really a problem we face.

Lol

Vaccines have a greater outcome

Have you ever heard of a malaria vaccines or taken one? No and that's because to the cleanliness of our society, you can see those disease only affect dirty areas where sanitation is non-existent, LA has been a victim of this recently and there's been several outbreaks there but it never reaches out 🤔

There is no vaccine for malaria

Lol

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria_vaccine https://www.who.int/immunization/research/development/malaria/en/ Am I missing something?

Oh no way

That must be hiv then

They aren't used in first world countries, I've never been offered it at school because malaria is non-existent in sanitary areas. As society get's cleaner, more and more virus get wiped out.

Because of vaccines yes

Your logic is flawed, there wasn't even a vaccine of it when it got wiped lol

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@shakz7 I think vaccines can be useful in 3rd world countries because the risk of death is much greater there and it's easier to catch viruses but the side effects they give is not worth it in first world countries since outbreaks rarely ever happen. I'd also condone vaccination to people who have a genetic predisposition that make their immune system very weak.

Okay vaccines have not saved us from polio small pox, measles and mumps?

No, they weren't taken en mass when they were wiped out.

Name a proven side effect from vaccination

@Flat Earth PhD Please refer to the infection rate charts, those are way more clear on the effects of vaccines. Deathrates have much more uncontrolled variables in them than infection rates

being infected isn't a problem. it's the death part that matters

I disagree, but it doesn't matter. Vaccines should prevent so an infection rate chart is way more representative.

circa 90% of Americans would test positive for exposure to Epstein Barr virus.

and so what?

https://deeprootsathome.com/vaccinated-unvaccinated-healthier/

@Jondar02 Can you find a chart where it shows how many people were vaccinated from 1940 to 1970? I've been looking for a while and can't find any from that period. I wonder how many people took that vaccine when the virus got wiped out, your hypothesis would be true if 60%> took the vaccine when it got licensed. This is just anecdotal evidence, take it with a grain of salt but I've asked my dad about this and he told me he never took any vaccines nor was instructed to when he was in his teenage years to adult life.

I think the data is being purposefully hidden because it will destroy the whole narrative of ''vaccines wiped out all diseases'' if we know how many people actually took the vaccine at that time.

great point

@Flat Earth PhD you see no problem here?

I can find a problem with every study

It's a survey. And not even a full study, keyword being "pilot"

we take what we can get in an industry controlled by big pharma

where the CDC has circa 56 vaccine patents