With herd immunity working

Problem is if it isn't

I just really dislike measles parties

If you live in an area with few enough vaccinated people, herd immunity cannot sufficiently work.

There

That's why you should move to areas where there are more vaccinated people if you want to be anti-vax publicly in my opinion

It is a lot safer for them

Keep in mind, herd immunity is for protecting those with allergic reactions or who cannot take vaccines.

They are the people who are at the most risk.

Samoa got pomped with measles cus vaccines prevent them and antivax dont do vax

Woops

Perhaps Thinky

Heres a paragraph that didnt send

Samoan authorities have arrested a prominent anti-vaccination activist amid an outbreak that has killed at least 63 people, most of them children.

At least 63 ppl most of whom were kids died

What is wrong with ppl

GENEVA – A measles epidemic raging in Samoa has killed 37 people, the World Health Organization said Wednesday, blaming an anti-vaccine messaging campaign for leaving the Pacific island nation vulnerable to the spread of the virus.

The U.N. health agency warned that a steep decline in vaccination rates in Samoa, a Pacific Ocean island nation halfway between Hawaii and New Zealand, had paved the way for a “huge outbreak,” with more than 2,500 cases in a country of just 200,000 people.

Who knew

The best way to wipe out a country is to not vax kids

My person issue with Anti-Vax isn't for my own safety, it is for the safety of those who cannot take vaccines and would run the 30% chance of fatility of they contract smallpox from a populace that is more than 5% unvaccinated.

I'll be fine, and probably a lot of anti-vax parents who are vaccinated will be fine too.

If it was just a choice that impacted the person who decided to be Anti-Vax, there wouldn't be any real problem whatsoever.

Even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available, in 2018, there were more than 140 000 measles deaths globally, mostly among children under the age of five.

Measles vaccination resulted in a 73% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2018 worldwide

In 2018, about 86% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 72% in 2000.

During 2000- 2018, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 23.2 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.

Dude how do ppl just skip facts like this

@Thinky I see that argument a lot and I agree with it to an extent because it goes both ways at times

the vaccine caused the outbreaks

it sheds

One's personal rights is being violated if they have to get vaccines because everyone else wants it regardless if it actually harms anyone or not

Also that epedemic

Thats a news headline from december 2019

So a couple of days ago

Of course, the problem comes into play that itay violate the rights of someone else's rights if that person who isn't vaccinated infects someone who cannot be.

Vaccines lower measle death tolls and u go nah its fine

That indeed is where the bigger moral conundrum lies.

A antivaxer said measles are not dangerous

Her son died at 4

Wtf

Had he gotten vaxed he wouldve been alive

I don't think forcing people to do XYZ is a good solution, but I do think some kind of Quarantine may be required if such people are insistent about doing so.

Yes

@Praveen what was the name