Message from @da multicoloured lizard

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2020-01-12 12:36:30 UTC  

as one leg is longer then the other you always walk in circles

2020-01-12 12:36:41 UTC  

ok then use a plane

2020-01-12 12:36:49 UTC  

They do

2020-01-12 12:36:56 UTC  

10000 miles straight lines

2020-01-12 12:37:05 UTC  

@da multicoloured lizard take a globe model, like the ones in school, and but some rope around 2 points, any points. is that a straight line or a semi circle?

2020-01-12 12:37:31 UTC  

ofcourse its not a perfectly straight line - because youre walking around the curve

2020-01-12 12:37:35 UTC  

so your test is inconclusive and anyway cant be done with walking

2020-01-12 12:38:03 UTC  

it can be done with walking and swimming but it takes ages and you will have to have incredible strength to do it

2020-01-12 12:38:20 UTC  

so i cant actually do it, it is more of a thought experiment, right?

2020-01-12 12:38:27 UTC  

how about an actual test that i could do?

2020-01-12 12:39:15 UTC  

its not a though experiment, i just dont have a plane

2020-01-12 12:39:15 UTC  

cmmon lol, proving a globe shoudnt be that hard, right?

2020-01-12 12:39:21 UTC  

2020-01-12 12:40:46 UTC  

all i ask for is a test i could do myself. like actually do. is there such a test?

2020-01-12 12:42:09 UTC  

One of the best documented methods for determining the Earth's roundness was first performed (to our knowledge) by the ancient Greeks. This was achieved by comparing the shadows of sticks in different locations. When the sun was directly overhead in one place, the stick there cast no shadow. At the same time in a city around 500 miles north, the stick there did cast a shadow.

If the Earth were flat then both sticks should show the same shadow (or lack of) because they would be positioned at the same angle towards the sun. The ancient Greeks found the shadows were different because the Earth was curved and so the sticks were at different angles. They then used the difference in these angles to calculate the circumference of the Earth. They managed to get it to within 10% of the true value – not bad for around 250 B.C.

Another piece of evidence for a globe is the difference between the night skies in the northern and southern hemispheres. The view is completely different because the Earth beneath you is pointing in a different direction. If the Earth were flat, the view should be the same. This can be made even easier by simply comparing when it is night and day in each country.

You can observe the planets as well. They all rotate, and watching over the course of a few days gives a clear picture they are spherical rather than flat. The chance that most of the planets are spherical but the Earth is flat seems very unlikely.

2020-01-12 12:42:48 UTC  

ok, can you name the greek guy that did that test without wiki? just curious

2020-01-12 12:43:21 UTC  

no because i dont have complete knowledge of the last 2250 years

2020-01-12 12:43:42 UTC  

are you gonna try and disprove me because i dont know the exact name of a philosopher

2020-01-12 12:43:48 UTC  

Eratosthenes

2020-01-12 12:43:52 UTC  

no lol

2020-01-12 12:43:58 UTC  

ok, great

2020-01-12 12:44:25 UTC  

i will only point out that according to NDY that test also works just fine on a flat earth and with a close local sun

2020-01-12 12:44:41 UTC  

(neil degrasse tyson(

2020-01-12 12:45:22 UTC  

so i guess the question then becomes: how do we know if the sun is small and local or big and far away

2020-01-12 12:45:44 UTC  

hes given proof the earth is round, if u believe that, u should believe other stuff he said

2020-01-12 12:46:22 UTC  

no, he just said its round lol saying aint the same as proving

2020-01-12 12:46:47 UTC  

but once again, how can we tell if the sun is small and local or big and far away? how can we test for that?

2020-01-12 12:47:10 UTC  

if it is small and local, we would be able to fly a drone up to it

2020-01-12 12:47:26 UTC  

well not if its 5000 miles up

2020-01-12 12:47:37 UTC  

thats still local btw

2020-01-12 12:48:13 UTC  

so why isnt all of earth lit up?

2020-01-12 12:49:18 UTC  

well the sun could still project light like a normal torch does, right? a torch on a wall would still only project light in a small circle on a wall and not on the entire wall...

2020-01-12 12:49:38 UTC  

maybe there is another way

2020-01-12 12:50:10 UTC  

so all ur doing is making assumptions yet complain when i dont have evidence straight away? the level of hypocrisy is unreal

2020-01-12 12:50:42 UTC  

no im saying there must be a clearer test for that

2020-01-12 12:51:04 UTC  

an easy observation maybe

2020-01-12 12:51:07 UTC  

my torch is not as bright as the sun, yet during the night i can see the rays travelling through the sky. so why cant we see the rays of the sun coming down during the night?

2020-01-12 12:52:05 UTC  

well we do know the atmosphere bends light. so at night when the sun is further away from us, the atmosphere could block us from seeing it at all because the very dim light would be bent away

2020-01-12 12:52:13 UTC  

prove it bends light

2020-01-12 12:52:18 UTC  

ohboy

2020-01-12 12:52:22 UTC  

difraction?