Message from @Sassy Undeniably

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2019-12-23 16:35:36 UTC  

thats just another story @Flat Earth PhD

2019-12-23 16:36:04 UTC  

Now we’re getting into Occam’s Razor. What’s more likely, an untestable mirror of sorts that would reflect P waves and change their speed, or P waves traveling through the Earth?

2019-12-23 16:36:07 UTC  

stories are not evidence

2019-12-23 16:36:11 UTC  

true but the point is we can't assume we know anything about the shape

2019-12-23 16:36:15 UTC  

under the surface

2019-12-23 16:36:35 UTC  

if you know nothing about something say nothing

2019-12-23 16:36:51 UTC  

That’s not an argument

2019-12-23 16:37:05 UTC  

That’s not even a defense

2019-12-23 16:37:53 UTC  

@Flat Earth PhD did you run the moon test with a photovoltaic cell yet?

2019-12-23 16:38:12 UTC  

I gotta go now, I’m done eating and this is my vacation

2019-12-23 16:38:36 UTC  

@RadRhys you don't know where they come from it is just an educated guess. They measure the strength of them when they occur but that doesn't tell you the what, the why, or how to prevent them. SO you know nothing other then their best educated guess which hasn't change in umpteen years. Don't bring up ridiculousness then. Yes it is okay when you get schooled on your own model to retract and refrain from using it as a defense and you can simply concede a point by saying you don't know something. We do it all the time. Give it a try.

2019-12-23 16:39:01 UTC  

@Sassy Undeniably it has changed

2019-12-23 16:39:09 UTC  

Quite recently, in fact

2019-12-23 16:39:24 UTC  

To explain the phenomena we see

2019-12-23 16:39:29 UTC  

What parts of it.

2019-12-23 16:39:42 UTC  

Plate Tectonic theory appeared in the 50s

2019-12-23 16:39:53 UTC  

Was only actively adopted in the 70s

2019-12-23 16:40:22 UTC  

Yeah Theory means you don' know and so you have a best educated guess so it is not a fact like I said

2019-12-23 16:40:31 UTC  

No

2019-12-23 16:40:36 UTC  

Theory means model

2019-12-23 16:40:44 UTC  

what is a model?

2019-12-23 16:40:54 UTC  

I know we just going to break down the word soup

2019-12-23 16:41:02 UTC  

Scientific terminology is not the same as colloquial speach

2019-12-23 16:41:18 UTC  

What is a Model definition please

2019-12-23 16:41:42 UTC  

A model is an explaination which describes why we see the phenomena we do

2019-12-23 16:42:06 UTC  

It needs predictive power

2019-12-23 16:42:41 UTC  

And has to agree with all evidence presented OR be the most comprehensive model avaliable

2019-12-23 16:42:56 UTC  

@Sassy Undeniably satisfactory?

2019-12-23 16:43:15 UTC  

1.
a three-dimensional representation of a person or thing or of a proposed structure, typically on a smaller scale than the original.
"a model of St. Paul's Cathedral"
Similar:
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copy
representation
mock-up
dummy
imitation
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2.
a system or thing used as an example to follow or imitate.
"the law became a model for dozens of laws banning nondegradable plastic products"
Similar:
prototype
stereotype
archetype
type
version
style
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template
framework
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verb
1.
fashion or shape (a three-dimensional figure or object) in a malleable material such as clay or wax.
"use the icing to model a house"
2.
use (a system, procedure, etc.) as an example to follow or imitate.
"the research method will be modeled on previous work"

2019-12-23 16:44:07 UTC  

Use the scientific definition, please

2019-12-23 16:44:21 UTC  

Not the first one you find in a dictionary

2019-12-23 16:45:19 UTC  

I asked you what the word model meant. I did not say scientific model and neither did you so go figure

2019-12-23 16:45:51 UTC  

A scientific model is a physical and/or mathematical and/or conceptual representation of a system of ideas, events or processes. Scientists seek to identify and understand patterns in our world by drawing on their scientific knowledge to offer explanations that enable the patterns to be predicted.

2019-12-23 16:45:51 UTC  

You knew exactly what I ment

2019-12-23 16:46:03 UTC  

No be clear when you speak young man

2019-12-23 16:46:07 UTC  

There we go

2019-12-23 16:46:16 UTC  

That is the definition

2019-12-23 16:46:45 UTC  

Now

2019-12-23 16:47:02 UTC  

You believe it is electrical discharges, no?

2019-12-23 16:47:16 UTC  

So read it carefully it is a conceptual representation of a system of ideas, events or processes. So they don't know they just offer explanations

2019-12-23 16:47:19 UTC  

What evidence do you have for this model?