Message from @Citizen Z

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2020-01-11 15:58:50 UTC  

Why can't i talk in anti vaxx chat

2020-01-11 15:58:57 UTC  

@Citizen Z what's your opinion on the foucault pendulum?

2020-01-11 15:59:15 UTC  

It uses magnets to keep the bob swinging

2020-01-11 15:59:26 UTC  

is that a joke

2020-01-11 15:59:36 UTC  

Most pendulums are just for looks

2020-01-11 15:59:52 UTC  

it does use magnets, more precisely an iron collar iirc

2020-01-11 15:59:56 UTC  

so the countless of people that have done in their schools universities and classrooms are all in on it

2020-01-11 16:00:04 UTC  

it doesn'y use magnets

2020-01-11 16:00:30 UTC  

modern ones use electricity but the old ones used magnets

2020-01-11 16:00:37 UTC  

and if it did use magnets how does it swing around instead of not just going to the magnet.

2020-01-11 16:00:40 UTC  

enlighten me if im wrong

2020-01-11 16:00:50 UTC  

They dont use magnets or electricity dim wit

2020-01-11 16:00:59 UTC  

are you serious?

2020-01-11 16:01:02 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-11 16:01:10 UTC  

it needs some form of push to stay in motion

2020-01-11 16:01:18 UTC  

or are you just trolling?

2020-01-11 16:02:06 UTC  

1. foucault pendulums in museums are not proof of anything because they are electronic
2. Alias effect with proper pendulums shows that it might not be the earth rotating because this effect would mean the earth rotates backwards during eclipses for some reason

2020-01-11 16:02:19 UTC  

It suggests the aether if you look at everything together like sagnac etc
and waves too
If the Aether exists its a major issue for your model.
No I'm not saying that effect proves it.
there's other experiments to prove the Aether.
But the effect is interesting if you view it as a field roating over the earth
and not the earth rotating
There's also Airys failure, the universal reference frame

2020-01-11 16:02:27 UTC  

Ether Wind Drift

The existence of the ether/aether has been forgotten by modern contemporary physics, after being dominated by Einstein's theory of special relativity. However, experimental evidence has already thoroughly concluded that there is an ether drift above Earth.

Three experiments that have demonstrated ether drift:

1. Miller light-beam interferometer measurement
2. Yu.M. Galaev optical wave band measurements
3. Michelson-Gale-Pearson experiment

There is also the well known Michelson-Morley experiment, but it was poorly planned and set up, and couldn't properly attain drift results. For example, the dense coverings of the MM interferometer including the stone-basement shielding would slow the ether drift, as well as the low altitude location and short light path. The set-up would guarantee a minuscule result in anistropy. These three experiments were accurate enough to derive a highly likely demonstration of the existence of the ether drift above earth.

2020-01-11 16:02:30 UTC  

The results from these measurements are consistent with a rotating earth or a stationary earth with ether moving across it. The Airy experiment demonstrated were only consistent with an ether moving across a stationary earth, so the stationary earth best fits the data in this case.
In the Miller light-beam interferometer measurement, performed by Dayton Miller, there was an anistropy detected that was consistent with an ether drift of between 7-10 km/s. The interferometer was among the most sensitive experimental one of its time, and was placed at a high altitude exposed more to the outside. This eliminated the Atsukovsky effect, which would have chambers and thick densities shield an apparatus from ether movement, which plagued the Michelson-Morley experiment.
The data had no correlation with temperature variations, but varied by sidereal time. As shown here:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431434939418935296/454970827541053441/1.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/431434939418935296/454970830745763850/2.jpg

2020-01-11 16:02:32 UTC  

Information and defense of it can be found here: http://www.orgonelab.org/miller.htm
Here is Dr. Maurice Allais' analysis of the Dayton Miller ether-drift experiments: http://allais.maurice.free.fr/English/media12-1.htm
Miller's ether drift measurements are outstanding evidence for the existence of aether/ether, an ether drift, and the failure of special relativity. The experimental set-up was precise and accounted for the variable effects that may come. Analysis has revealed that Miller's measurements consistently show a real ether drift above the Earth.
The Yu.M. Galaev optical wave band measurements are a more recent repetition of Miller's ether drift measurements. They can be found here (on page 17): http://www.orgonelab.org/EtherDrift/Galaev2.pdf

2020-01-11 16:02:32 UTC  

@TheTsoukis https://www.si.edu/spotlight/foucault-pendulum i recommend you reading this before having an opinion lol

2020-01-11 16:02:32 UTC  

spaaaaaaaam

2020-01-11 16:02:33 UTC  

This experiment had an optical interferometer inside of a light structure, which measured anistropy of light speed, consistent with about 7 km/sec, similar to Miller's results.
The development regularities of viscous medium streams (fluids or gases) in directing systems are used in the work measuring method. The measured value is proportional to a velocity di
erential of the ether viscous streams in two tubes of di
erent section within the original hypothesis. This di
erential value is proportional to the ether drift velocity (the first order method).
-Yu.M. Galaev

2020-01-11 16:02:36 UTC  

: Michelson-Gale-Pearson Experiment original papers: http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1925ApJ....61..137M&data_type=PDF_HIGH&whole_paper=YES&type=PRINTER&filetype=.pdf http://articles.adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/nph-iarticle_query?1925ApJ....61..140M&data_type=PDF_HIGH&whole_paper=YES&type=PRINTER&filetype=.pdf
By looking over the data, it consistently gave a once per 24 hour ether drift fringe shift. This further demonstrates the existence of ether drift.
A rectangular tract of land at Clearing, Illinois, 2010 feet from east to west and 1113 feet from north to south, was carefully surveyed and staked by Dr. Kannenstine, and twelve-inch water pipes were laid straight and level around the entire circuit with a double line across one end.
- A. A. MICHELSON AND HENRY G. GALE
The apparatus was large enough to measure the anistropy from the ether wind.
Relativists will be quick to claim that the Sagnac effect measured here is consistent with Special relativity and a rotating Earth. However, the Sagnac effect is inconsistent with relativity, as I have pointed out before. The Sagnac effect can only work with the aether, and so this experiment exclusively demonstrates an ether drift.

2020-01-11 16:02:37 UTC  

sp

2020-01-11 16:02:38 UTC  

sspsp

2020-01-11 16:02:39 UTC  

in the beginning it needs a SMALL nydge to get started but it can continue moving not forver but for a long time depeding on the length of the rope the pendulum ius hung from

2020-01-11 16:02:39 UTC  

sp

2020-01-11 16:02:52 UTC  

Nice oracle (google)

2020-01-11 16:02:53 UTC  

N1ggg33r

2020-01-11 16:03:00 UTC  

I have tons more info but I doubt most of u will.actually challenge yourselves

2020-01-11 16:03:04 UTC  

Fagg00t555

2020-01-11 16:03:05 UTC  
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2020-01-11 16:03:13 UTC  

try me biatch

2020-01-11 16:03:19 UTC  

@TheTsoukis the momentum doesn't keep it for long, so they used magnets. please stop talking out of your as*

2020-01-11 16:03:50 UTC  

some might to keep the demonstration going the physics principle remains

2020-01-11 16:04:06 UTC  

Its demonstrating the aether

2020-01-11 16:04:36 UTC  

What are you even talking about