Message from @hgb

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2020-02-07 23:54:57 UTC  

I'm not trying to find where the center of mass is

2020-02-07 23:55:03 UTC  

now suggesting that the ruler is uniform of density then why doesnt the gravity topple the rulers?

2020-02-07 23:55:13 UTC  

Okay okay okay

2020-02-07 23:55:18 UTC  

If I have a very long ruler

2020-02-07 23:55:28 UTC  

I put an object next to it

2020-02-07 23:55:40 UTC  

Do you think the object will be attracted to the ruler or its centre

2020-02-07 23:56:11 UTC  

Aka.

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2020-02-07 23:56:17 UTC  

First of all. The centre of mass definitely is affected by shape just look at the toys that use this effect as a gimmick

2020-02-07 23:56:24 UTC  

Well duh

2020-02-07 23:56:26 UTC  

The centre

2020-02-07 23:56:27 UTC  

But I'm saying

2020-02-07 23:56:31 UTC  

like ive been saying

2020-02-07 23:56:41 UTC  

You don't use centre of mass to calculate gravity when your object is not a point mass.

2020-02-07 23:56:47 UTC  

Which is obvious

2020-02-07 23:57:01 UTC  

what do you mean?

2020-02-07 23:57:22 UTC  

You can only use centre of mass to estimate gravity when the object is like a point mass

2020-02-07 23:57:57 UTC  

> Perform an experiment. Have a large plane perpendicular to the earth, place an object near it, see where the gravitational force acts on that object.
@hgb Is this plane got more mass then the earth. If so the earth will be attracted to the plane. Also this plane woult crumple in on its centre of mass to create a sphere

2020-02-07 23:58:10 UTC  

Near the dead centre of the earth, the prediction of the centre of mass gravity would be very very very large, in reality, it's close to zero.

2020-02-07 23:58:27 UTC  

Ok you're still not getting my point.

2020-02-07 23:58:35 UTC  

The centre of gravity isnt used to calculate the centre of mass ever. It shows where gravity will be in effect

2020-02-07 23:58:39 UTC  

Lmao

2020-02-07 23:58:41 UTC  

Okay.

2020-02-07 23:58:53 UTC  

You're at 5 meters away from centre of the earth

2020-02-07 23:59:00 UTC  

ok

2020-02-07 23:59:01 UTC  

How much gravity force would there be on you

2020-02-07 23:59:19 UTC  

Would it be larger than or smaller than g

2020-02-07 23:59:29 UTC  

larger

2020-02-07 23:59:51 UTC  

following inverse gravitational square law

2020-02-07 23:59:52 UTC  

That's what the centre of mass method predicts, right?

2020-02-07 23:59:56 UTC  

no?

2020-02-08 00:00:00 UTC  

i just told you

2020-02-08 00:00:06 UTC  

But in reality, if you're there, obviously, your gravity would be less than g

2020-02-08 00:00:09 UTC  

the inverse gravitational law

2020-02-08 00:00:15 UTC  

thats not true

2020-02-08 00:00:21 UTC  

Okay.

2020-02-08 00:00:25 UTC  

Think about it.

2020-02-08 00:00:53 UTC  

You're at the centre of the earth. Inverse square law predicts near infinite force there, correct?

2020-02-08 00:01:01 UTC  

no

2020-02-08 00:01:12 UTC  

Well say 0.0000001 m away from centre of earth

2020-02-08 00:01:15 UTC  

ok

2020-02-08 00:01:22 UTC  

You would have a humongously large force