yeah the solstice one can be represented visually on a flat model, cant put it into words

Is there a link?

Actually I can dig it up myself

hold on its hard to find, imtriyng to find a good one

ok so ignoring the text. oh nvm

it was a .gif that screwed up

Maleman, you’re not being honest. Earth being a sphere makes no sense when there is zero observable curve of earth in real life.

but the circles around the middle are lines where the sun would move to during seasons thus causing season changes

Seasons is not an issue, it could be explained with altitude

https://youtu.be/NKQI18jr8Oc

Imagine explaining that with refraction

@D.Robertson you are just repeating the same unprovable arguments as they are given to you on youtube.

Stupid.

Mhm

man this is the limit of the eye's distance. when viewed from a higher altitude, you see the turbine in entirety, and ofc, you see 0 curvature at any height

Why is the bottom not visible, but there's a hard horizon from the water?

On those windmills?

@maleman it has already been explained to you, tons of times.

Shown to you.

Repeated to you.

there we go!!! we cant see the quarter across the table, is the TABLE ROUND???????

You’re brainwashed.

That's not an explanation tho

it MUST BE THE CURVATURE of the TABLE

Does that mean that those lines converge?

yup

If im looking for a thing thats well above the horizon, it would be upside down?

why would it be upside down?

Like the sun

If those lines cross, they cross, no?

I mean to me the sun seems to be a ball, and a ball has no up or down or side, or upside down

however, I can't make any certainty as to what I think the sun actually is

Well, that would mean that we can't see the sun after it's gone down, but we can

If we rise in elevatiom

I dont understand your question

I can see the sun set at sea, is that due to it's distance?

So small that it's not visible?

Tho it's huge when it goes down, bottom first, but let's not concentrate on that