@maleman it has already been explained to you, tons of times.

Shown to you.

Repeated to you.

there we go!!! we cant see the quarter across the table, is the TABLE ROUND???????

You’re brainwashed.

That's not an explanation tho

it MUST BE THE CURVATURE of the TABLE

Does that mean that those lines converge?

yup

If im looking for a thing thats well above the horizon, it would be upside down?

why would it be upside down?

Like the sun

If those lines cross, they cross, no?

I mean to me the sun seems to be a ball, and a ball has no up or down or side, or upside down

however, I can't make any certainty as to what I think the sun actually is

Well, that would mean that we can't see the sun after it's gone down, but we can

If we rise in elevatiom

I dont understand your question

I can see the sun set at sea, is that due to it's distance?

So small that it's not visible?

Tho it's huge when it goes down, bottom first, but let's not concentrate on that

I can see the sun... yeah because it's bright... is that due to it's distance... you mean the sun disappearing? yeah that would be the distance... so small its not visible? yeah you mean it disappears because its small and moves away? I guess so if I got your question ribght

ok so the magnification is due to the lens of our atmosphere:

Yeah, why can i see the sun again after it has set if I gain altitude?

the lower layers of our atmo are filled with water, and water acts as a magnifying lens

In desert?

Like in salt flats?

man there's a really good video example of this to answer your question I just wish i could find it

If the water was a magnifying lense, I should not be able to see the sun again with altitude tho

lol with ALTITUDE you are PAST that layer of magnificiation due to the layers in the atmosphere

How much more water there is at ground level and at say 1000ft?

You don’t need to gain any altitude. Just zoom in.

Wha?

The sun has not set in that gif

so what is your super precise, uber specific question, that our previous 10 comments have not answered??

The sun was already converging before zooming in.

Keep the full zoom, and gain altitude

See what happens