Message from @Strike

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2020-02-15 22:45:53 UTC  

I’ll let strike go on ahead.

2020-02-15 22:46:07 UTC  

@Drewski4343 Be talking to you later. 😎

2020-02-15 22:46:25 UTC  

Looking forward to it, my dude! 😉

2020-02-15 22:47:20 UTC  

over small scales yes, atmospheric pressure will force air into areas of lower pressure. but on a large scale the force of gravity can overcome the force of atmospheric pressure and create compression

2020-02-15 22:47:38 UTC  

alright I'm not gonna go into my whole vacuum schpiel

2020-02-15 22:48:39 UTC  

except basically the strongest vacuum here on EARTH is 10^-6 torr, the chambver requires 10ft of concrete walls to prevent implosion

2020-02-15 22:48:54 UTC  

outer space is 10^-17 torr... thats over 1,000,000x stronger

2020-02-15 22:49:10 UTC  

spacecraft walls are less than 1/2in thick aluminum alloys

2020-02-15 22:49:25 UTC  

not to mention earths upper atmosphere is ~2000C, which is WAY HIGHER than the melting point of aluminum]

2020-02-15 22:49:33 UTC  

of course you're gonna get large numbers, you're approaching zero

2020-02-15 22:49:45 UTC  

yes but the multiplier is the key here

2020-02-15 22:49:52 UTC  

this is exponential stuff just like pH numbers

2020-02-15 22:49:57 UTC  

as you get a stronger vacuum you're just pulling out smaller and smaller amounts of air

2020-02-15 22:50:04 UTC  

but more strongly

2020-02-15 22:50:07 UTC  

it has a pretty negligible effect at that point

2020-02-15 22:50:34 UTC  

Oh, the thermosphere temp? temperature doesn't mean much that far out because gas density is so low.

2020-02-15 22:50:41 UTC  

alright I know you guys won't listen to the vacuum argument thats why i wanted to avoid it

2020-02-15 22:50:56 UTC  

even with a complete vacuum the strongest force you could ever get is 1 atmosphere of pressure

2020-02-15 22:50:57 UTC  

ofc temperature doesnt mean anything either ;)))) I know buddy, obviously temperature in a vacuum means nothing too ;))))

2020-02-15 22:51:05 UTC  

because the pressure comes from the air outside

2020-02-15 22:51:09 UTC  

lets go back to the basics

2020-02-15 22:51:10 UTC  

not from the vacuum inside

2020-02-15 22:51:38 UTC  

how about the principle of WATER that it always finds its level

2020-02-15 22:51:56 UTC  

how does that relate to this at all?

2020-02-15 22:52:16 UTC  

its very simple

2020-02-15 22:52:17 UTC  

if we agree about temp, I'm not sure why it was brought up then...

2020-02-15 22:52:35 UTC  

water ALWAYS finds its level, bodies of water always seek LEVEL (horizontal)

2020-02-15 22:52:40 UTC  

earth is 70%+ water

2020-02-15 22:52:47 UTC  

why do you think that is though?

2020-02-15 22:52:57 UTC  

why do you think water flows to the lowest point?

2020-02-15 22:53:01 UTC  

I brought temp up because spacecraft cannot physically survive the harsh conditions we're presented

2020-02-15 22:53:03 UTC  

my point is

2020-02-15 22:53:08 UTC  

I'd agree with you. water on a globe is also level

2020-02-15 22:53:20 UTC  

in a vacuum there's very little air to transfer heat

2020-02-15 22:53:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/678373353723133952/unknown.png

2020-02-15 22:53:44 UTC  

so while the temperature may be very high the actual energy contained within that area will be low

2020-02-15 22:53:44 UTC  

waterALWAYS finds level, even at 120,000fty altitude

2020-02-15 22:53:57 UTC  

uh

2020-02-15 22:54:07 UTC  

yea

2020-02-15 22:54:11 UTC  

it's pulled down by gravity

2020-02-15 22:54:13 UTC  

water on a GLOBE is not LEVEL, it is ROUND