In fact, it has nothing to do with the 2nd law of thermodynamics

Here we go.

metallica have you seen train cars imploding?

Uh thankfully no..

Lol

ok great if we havent even gotten to step 1

we cannot properly debate about the earth

not even the moon landing

alright Im just pushing your buttons, im a hungry dude rn

i'm guessing the idea that it'd break the second law of thermodynamics is that it ought to spread out to reach a lower energy state

here lemme post a link what I mean its a 15sec video

though that kinda

doesn't work unless you're ignoring gravity

im not brining in any physical laws

I think some of the confusion with this topic is comparing atmospheric pressure to contained pressure - pressurized gas in a sealed container. Atmospheric pressure is generated by weight. I'd compare it more to the ocean, where pressure increases with depth due to weight.

just gonna go deep into number with pressure differential

or have some reason to believe gravity isn't real

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz95_VvTxZM

I’ll let strike go on ahead.

@Drewski4343 Be talking to you later. 😎

Looking forward to it, my dude! 😉

over small scales yes, atmospheric pressure will force air into areas of lower pressure. but on a large scale the force of gravity can overcome the force of atmospheric pressure and create compression

alright I'm not gonna go into my whole vacuum schpiel

except basically the strongest vacuum here on EARTH is 10^-6 torr, the chambver requires 10ft of concrete walls to prevent implosion

outer space is 10^-17 torr... thats over 1,000,000x stronger

spacecraft walls are less than 1/2in thick aluminum alloys

not to mention earths upper atmosphere is ~2000C, which is WAY HIGHER than the melting point of aluminum]

of course you're gonna get large numbers, you're approaching zero

yes but the multiplier is the key here

this is exponential stuff just like pH numbers

as you get a stronger vacuum you're just pulling out smaller and smaller amounts of air

but more strongly

it has a pretty negligible effect at that point

Oh, the thermosphere temp? temperature doesn't mean much that far out because gas density is so low.

alright I know you guys won't listen to the vacuum argument thats why i wanted to avoid it

even with a complete vacuum the strongest force you could ever get is 1 atmosphere of pressure

ofc temperature doesnt mean anything either ;)))) I know buddy, obviously temperature in a vacuum means nothing too ;))))

because the pressure comes from the air outside

lets go back to the basics

not from the vacuum inside

how about the principle of WATER that it always finds its level