Message from @BigFooker

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2020-02-16 20:29:17 UTC  

There’s ice at the equator*

2020-02-16 20:29:34 UTC  

How doesn’t that part of ice melt from the sun??

2020-02-16 20:52:26 UTC  

also, if the Earth is flat, how come one can take a ship and go from one end of South America to the other by going straight across Earth.

2020-02-16 20:53:38 UTC  

Going due east over a long distance won't be a straight line in either model actually

2020-02-16 20:54:05 UTC  

to stay due east would require course adjustment

2020-02-16 20:54:09 UTC  

yes

2020-02-16 20:54:20 UTC  

On a globe

2020-02-16 20:54:44 UTC  

The most common flat earth model is also compatible

2020-02-16 20:54:46 UTC  

i.e. when they do the sailing race around Antarctica, from west to east, they have to turn to the right

2020-02-16 20:54:58 UTC  

to stay on course,

2020-02-16 20:55:05 UTC  

Which eliminates any possibility of the ice wall

2020-02-16 20:55:10 UTC  

The common flat earth model has the north pole in the center

2020-02-16 20:55:22 UTC  

right, but that model fails lots of other places

2020-02-16 20:55:45 UTC  

thus the course correction leads to a circle around the noth pole

2020-02-16 20:55:48 UTC  

24 hrs sun in antarctica in January for example

2020-02-16 20:55:56 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484516084846952451/678706154096033829/Screenshot_20200123-061653.jpg

2020-02-16 20:56:10 UTC  

@Wolfgang Goyim Ron's got a new name

2020-02-16 20:56:20 UTC  

How do we get star trails on this?

2020-02-16 20:56:33 UTC  

B/c that's what happens when that motion exits

2020-02-16 20:56:39 UTC  

Why is that a question

2020-02-16 20:56:50 UTC  

Also

2020-02-16 21:06:04 UTC  

A common FE argument is that Polaris doesn't move, but in the globe earth model, it actually does very very slowly, so slowly that it's imperceptible over short timeframes. In 3000 BC, Thuban was the north star, and circa 320 BC, Pytheas said that the north celestial pole was devoid of stars. A complete cycle of the precession of the equinoxes takes over 25,000 years.

2020-02-16 21:07:22 UTC  

@SiliconBassist Thats not right

2020-02-16 21:07:31 UTC  

Polaris moves in a circle over one night, just like all the other stars

2020-02-16 21:07:37 UTC  

it does

2020-02-16 21:07:42 UTC  

You're right about teh precession though

2020-02-16 21:07:46 UTC  

That's different

2020-02-16 21:08:04 UTC  

OIc what you're saying

2020-02-16 21:08:09 UTC  

There's also this :

2020-02-16 21:08:28 UTC  

One star in particular is moving quickly enough to pick up in our lifetime

2020-02-16 21:09:35 UTC  

What star is that?

2020-02-16 21:10:55 UTC  

And yeah, i didn't mean the circular movement seen every night

2020-02-16 21:11:21 UTC  

Although that circle is currently getting smaller as Polaris moves closer to the north celestial pole iirc

2020-02-16 21:19:09 UTC  

Barnard's star

2020-02-16 21:19:25 UTC  

Ah

2020-02-16 21:39:33 UTC  

That gif shows literally *years* of orbital motion. A star trails timelapse is 7 hours long.

2020-02-16 21:49:12 UTC  

Polaris moves. You finally got it right

2020-02-16 21:54:43 UTC  

@SiliconBassist what the circular path of polaris is getting smaller?

2020-02-16 22:00:37 UTC  

Yeah. From Earth's perspective, Polaris is slowly getting closer to the north celestial pole which causes the circular path in which it appears to follow to shrink.