No trouble at all.

crap

What has this discussion come to?

turnips

Donald the turnip

This degenerated quickly

Of America

i like turnips

im eating one now

We should go back to topic

It's simple. The people are the state and therefore the people should decide for themselves.

Yet I believe only educated people should be able to vote.

I disagree

Your vote can affect an other's life significantly, so an uneducated person or mentally ill person shouldn't be allowed to vote.

The average American can handle choosing a president

the average American can't point out the US on a world map

And that's a sad truth.

then again this also applies to a good chunk of the world population

The media makes us seem dumber than we actually are

And the state hasn't done anything about it.

i'm partly conflicted, as i think if a vote only affects you then you should have a say, but on society as a whole, somone a thousand miles away could influence who i'm governed by and that shit sucks

the danger of universal suffrage is underrated.

I believe the average American could be better educated but they are not dumbasses

Agreed

@Ronin is that if you include infants in the senile?

even if they're smart politics is a complex issue

a lot of people only care about one thing or get easily bribed with free stuff

If you have a state that state is authoritarian because it must enforce its laws in its areas

There is just less authoritarian

@DrRisen I honestly don't know.
I saw some vids about some guy asking if the US should bomb Agrabah and most people thought it was a real place.

you can various degrees of authoritarian, yeah

That’s fixed partially by Education and apply trust laws to political parties

@Ronin did he imply that Agrabah was anywhere specific?

@DrRisen Agrabah was the fictional setting from Aladin that sounded vaguely real.

They ask 40 people

And take the 4 dumbest

i mean, it sounds like it's in the middle east and so it probably sounded real

"Authoritarianism or Libertarianism? Why? What are the advantages and disadvantages of Authoritarianism and Libertarianism?"

Libertarianism

even with education some people get easily bribed.
there are also vast sections of society that refuse to educate or vote for somebody based on race

I don't need to answer why I'm too cool for that

@Ronin So did people want to bomb Aladdin or not?