Message from @Koninos

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2020-03-29 21:15:52 UTC  

way

2020-03-29 21:15:54 UTC  

At that point

2020-03-29 21:16:05 UTC  

Yes, that's another story, however.

2020-03-29 21:16:06 UTC  

You can just spend it directly with the government itself

2020-03-29 21:16:11 UTC  

It issnt

2020-03-29 21:16:17 UTC  

Top Down economics has been proven to not work

2020-03-29 21:16:21 UTC  

greediness is another topic.

2020-03-29 21:16:34 UTC  

To make it work you have to force the top to spend the money they way you want them to

2020-03-29 21:16:44 UTC  

At which point that is just government control, so why give them money

2020-03-29 21:17:11 UTC  

I don't disagree with you on that, I'm disagreeing with you on implementing a 90% tax on the wealthy.

2020-03-29 21:17:15 UTC  

The stimulus package, 2 trillion, specifically banned stock buybacks at the Requestof trump

2020-03-29 21:17:31 UTC  

Because last time he gave breaks / money to the top

2020-03-29 21:17:34 UTC  

They were greedy

2020-03-29 21:17:41 UTC  

And you cant convince someone to not be grreedy by asking

2020-03-29 21:17:43 UTC  

You have to force them

2020-03-29 21:18:27 UTC  

Again, greediness is irrelevant. I mentioned Trump's cuts to demonstrate how tax cuts brought in more wealthy people. I used that fact to demonstrate that, respectively, if you implement a 90% tax on them, they will leave.

2020-03-29 21:18:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/588205956039442452/693932127456198706/Cancer.png

2020-03-29 21:18:37 UTC  

unless you want to warp back to the 50's.

2020-03-29 21:19:20 UTC  

They can go to so many other countries where their revenues will be 1000% higher than in a country which collects the 90% of their incomes.

2020-03-29 21:19:37 UTC  

They won't be good, loyal citizens. They'll just follow the path of gold.

2020-03-29 21:19:44 UTC  

And the path of gold has no loyalty or honour.

2020-03-29 21:21:47 UTC  

@Koninos During the 50's, in a family of 4 - just the father could work - and make enough money to support all 4 in a middle-class suburban life with 2 cars, and still have enough money to buy luxuries and go to vacation.

2020-03-29 21:22:08 UTC  

Because of a combination of decisions and reforms to the economy

2020-03-29 21:22:21 UTC  

To say it is impossible to create such conditions is untrue

2020-03-29 21:22:47 UTC  

But the economy, back then, wasn't dependant on the wealthy. Now it is, so it's indeed utopian and unrealistic to implement a 90% tax on the wealthy.

2020-03-29 21:22:56 UTC  

Also strategically lame.

2020-03-29 21:23:37 UTC  

As i saidd gradual integration is possible

2020-03-29 21:23:47 UTC  

If we focus on improving the middle class

2020-03-29 21:23:49 UTC  

It is possible

2020-03-29 21:24:00 UTC  

No. You'll just get to the point, gradually or not, that the wealthy will leave due to heavy taxation.

2020-03-29 21:24:05 UTC  

So?

2020-03-29 21:24:09 UTC  

And no they wont

2020-03-29 21:24:11 UTC  

50's disprove that

2020-03-29 21:24:13 UTC  

So you lose a hell lot of revenue.

2020-03-29 21:24:32 UTC  

Fuck the 50's, in the 50's the wealthy had loyalty, were patriots and they were not predatory multinational companies.

2020-03-29 21:24:43 UTC  

Which guide America's economy today.

2020-03-29 21:24:49 UTC  

And politics, as well.

2020-03-29 21:25:39 UTC  

But you make the assumption that is utterly *impossible* to fix these issues.

2020-03-29 21:25:45 UTC  

Difficult yes, but impossible? No

2020-03-29 21:26:11 UTC  

Today, impossible.

2020-03-29 21:26:26 UTC  

What do you mean today?