Message from @Maksim

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2020-01-31 18:42:07 UTC  

They aren't taxed so that they don't have influence over government

2020-01-31 18:42:33 UTC  

It's not because the Church get a special favour from the state

2020-01-31 20:29:37 UTC  

Read Biblical Basis for War

2020-02-01 04:06:31 UTC  

<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝️

**-** When is violence justified? Is it ever? What scripture do you use to assert your beliefs?

2020-02-01 04:12:21 UTC  

violence is only justified in self defence and im not gonna use scripture since i am not religious but im interested in religion ok bye

2020-02-01 04:16:08 UTC  

When the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

2020-02-01 04:19:09 UTC  

both answers kinda cringe

2020-02-01 04:19:42 UTC  
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Violence is only justified if its deemed good in the eyes of god, and whats deemed good in the eyes of god is already presented in scripture, so self defense

2020-02-01 04:19:49 UTC  

@Sentient23 Read Siege lmao.

2020-02-01 04:19:54 UTC  

Violence always epic

2020-02-01 04:19:56 UTC  

REED SEEJ

2020-02-01 04:20:04 UTC  

ok

2020-02-01 04:20:06 UTC  

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2020-02-01 04:20:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587029563863990282/673019828788920320/unknown-4.png

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Nice.

2020-02-01 04:20:44 UTC  

ikr

2020-02-01 04:21:56 UTC  

Justified entirely

2020-02-01 04:51:25 UTC  

@Asdrubal What do you know about the Antediluvian period

2020-02-01 04:51:43 UTC  

Time between fall of man (Adam and Eve) and the great flood

2020-02-01 04:56:05 UTC  

`"After a missing section in the tablet, we learn that the gods have decided to send a flood to destroy mankind. The god Enki (lord of the underworld sea of fresh water and Sumerian equivalent of Babylonian god Ea) warns Ziusudra, the ruler of Shuruppak, to build a large boat (the passage describing the directions for the boat is also lost).

When the tablet resumes, it is describing the flood. A terrible storm raged for seven days and nights. "The huge boat had been tossed about on the great waters."`

2020-02-01 04:56:08 UTC  

I'm confused

2020-02-01 04:58:04 UTC  

This was written in 1600 BC

2020-02-01 04:58:13 UTC  

Genesis was 1450 BC

2020-02-01 04:58:19 UTC  

So this predates genesis

2020-02-01 04:58:22 UTC  

I am confused

2020-02-01 05:14:56 UTC  

@Maksim I dont trust carbon dating

2020-02-01 05:15:05 UTC  

So cant tell you much

2020-02-01 08:54:13 UTC  

Violence is justified when it's used against the rich

2020-02-01 08:54:26 UTC  

Supported by Jesus

2020-02-01 09:38:23 UTC  

Violence is justified by truth

2020-02-01 09:38:30 UTC  

truth is enough

2020-02-01 10:34:32 UTC  

violence is justified when used in self defense

2020-02-01 19:53:52 UTC  

Per natural law, good violence is exact and deadly. Per supernatural law, violence is just iff. it is sanctified, for exact justice proceeds from sanctity. Violence for vengeance or revolution from authority is unsanctified (Romans 12-13), for in these the violent are usurpers (of His seat of authority) that give the devil a foothold in them (Ephesians 4:27). However, retaliation (lex talonis: Exodus 21:23-25), to pay back in kind, is delegated onto authority, from which the sword is given to rulers for good reason (Romans 13:4). Authorities relegate this accordingly, that all immorality is rebuked and expelled/removed/exarated (1 Corinthians 5). The euphemism of this verse is clear, but note: The use of minimal compliant force is key to build even one's enemies to repent. Insofar as described, this isn't just a right, but a duty: To spread the Gospel in living it, exemplifying it. And, bearing that sword so as to not suffer murderers/thieves/evildoers as a Christian (that is, on part of the Faith and its statues) does not shame this authority, but glorifies God in it (1 Peter 4:15-16). Contrary to public opinion, Jesus does not revoke lex talonis in Matthew 5:38 ("eye for an eye..."), but rather escalates it to emphasize how the sword the sovereign/person/civil body uses also looms over his/its head, for this sword is delegated by God (and mediated by Christ). Jesus says as much (Matthew 5:17-18). Therefore, violence per natural/supernatural law stays inviolate (until all is accomplished).

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