Message from @Gothik Extravaganza
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Violence is justified by truth
truth is enough
violence is justified when used in self defense
Per natural law, good violence is exact and deadly. Per supernatural law, violence is just iff. it is sanctified, for exact justice proceeds from sanctity. Violence for vengeance or revolution from authority is unsanctified (Romans 12-13), for in these the violent are usurpers (of His seat of authority) that give the devil a foothold in them (Ephesians 4:27). However, retaliation (lex talonis: Exodus 21:23-25), to pay back in kind, is delegated onto authority, from which the sword is given to rulers for good reason (Romans 13:4). Authorities relegate this accordingly, that all immorality is rebuked and expelled/removed/exarated (1 Corinthians 5). The euphemism of this verse is clear, but note: The use of minimal compliant force is key to build even one's enemies to repent. Insofar as described, this isn't just a right, but a duty: To spread the Gospel in living it, exemplifying it. And, bearing that sword so as to not suffer murderers/thieves/evildoers as a Christian (that is, on part of the Faith and its statues) does not shame this authority, but glorifies God in it (1 Peter 4:15-16). Contrary to public opinion, Jesus does not revoke lex talonis in Matthew 5:38 ("eye for an eye..."), but rather escalates it to emphasize how the sword the sovereign/person/civil body uses also looms over his/its head, for this sword is delegated by God (and mediated by Christ). Jesus says as much (Matthew 5:17-18). Therefore, violence per natural/supernatural law stays inviolate (until all is accomplished).
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<@&588707615643795456> Daily Question ✝️
What is your view on the Papacy? Is it correct to have? Should it be changed? Why do you have this view?
It is gay. @Shalopy
Infiltrated by jews
We need to reform it
Infiltrated by jews, we need to restore the traditionalist Papacy.
The Papacy is the natural conclusion from Apostolic succession
It's just that most people have a misunderstanding of what the Popes infallibility actually entails
Papal supremacy and the Apostolic Cathedra of Roma is most argued from misquotes and misunderstandings of Church fathers, but, worse, it dodges history to make its claim. History is its best foot forward, so I'll deal in that. Note, not one Ecumenical council was ever called by a Roman Pontiff. If Papal supremacy were Holy Tradition and the Pope had Primacy of teaching, then its power would have been used to resolve the many, many disputes in Early Church History. It was not (thus, QED), and, contrarily to papist teaching, the Councils were instead at odds with the Papacy: See the calling 4th Ecumenical Council, against the wishes of the Pope, or the 6th Ecumenical Council declaring the heresy of Pope Honorius; and, so on and so forth. Also, recall that Rome was organized (rather than founded) by both Peter and Paul (a prime is never even). And, each of them formed many more episcopal sees, which, by definition, must have the same jurisdictional standing and should, to this day, now as overseen by other Bishops. So much for supremacy. "No distinction shall be drawn by the merits of the two" is also refuted by this former point, thus the stature of the seat self-refutes logically. Further, the title Summus Pontifex Ecclesiae Universalis, the trojan ally to to Pontiff Maximus, was already condemned by Saint Ambrose (himself a universalist and proponent of the filioque): Self refutation of a universal bishop of Roma, on its own terms, by its own kind.
The papacy should sign and seal the two state deal between Israel and the untied States. No, I cannot say more. I hold the lesser priesthood in the church of Jesus Christ.
Papacy gay
Replace it with Muslim Church
Catholic-Muslim unification
Remove both Jewish Israel and Palestine
Institute Christian Israel / Christendom or be jointly administered by The Orthodox Church, The Catholic Church, and several members of the largest Protestant denominations
no
Yes.
Protestants don't deserve shit
Incorrect
American Protestants*
what's the difference
Are you retarded?
wHaTs tHe dIfFreNce
Americans ruin everything they touch
European Protestants are extremley respectable, more so than cucktholicism
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American Protestant < The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints.
I would rather study with the eastern Orthodox, though of the Holy Roman, I've read Benedict's Let God's Light Shine Through, last summer. The man seems genuine enough I wouldn't mind going through The Two Popes book before I pick up another Twelve Tribes walking papers.
Dark Lotus is rooted in American Protestantism. Though, harken back to Catholicism, of the American branch of the holy Roman order, you've got Jake and Elwood. An emissary to the eastern Orthodox prior to any pontiff visit, well there's DIO.
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