Descension, on the other hand, is going to hell.

What word is for purgatory

Lmao detention

I almost killed someone once. And I am very manipulating in general as a person. And I am an atheist. So if God exists, then I'm pretty sure I'm heading straight down to hell.

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@starbare say what you want dude but I will have the last laugh

>So if God exists, then I'm pretty sure I'm heading straight down to hell.

Sad.

Masturbation.

I hate that I do it. I want to stop. I'm not a confirmed catholic yet. I plan to stop permanently the first time I go to confession

But I also want to stop right now, if possible

@21ooAB that's a hard habbit to cut
I noticed that I cut down on it a lot compared to a year ago.

Probably my lack of faith.
I don't think I have really noticed any epiphany toward Christianity.
I hate atheism but there is a lingering doubt that prevents me from firmly considering myself Christian.

@21ooAB do you get out often?

Or have like any hobbies

Getting a girlfriend helps, that's a huge point of marriage, to avoid sin when burning with passion

find something to keep yourself busy.
figure out what sets you off and avoid it.

@21ooAB I have a hard time cutting it out too

I started July of 18, August of 18 I started trying to stop

And i still only ever go 2 weeks

@Joe The Communist Same here

Yea

But going out does help

Unless it’s sports oddly enough

Probably something something testosterone

Cutting masturbation for the first time is easy already from my experience

It's the mindset that matters

You must make yourself hate pornography, pornographers and what it does

If you liberalise yourself it's easy to get back into a loop of perpetual failure

https://www.news24.com/xArchive/Archive/Porn-the-new-weapon-of-choice-20020330

Can confirm what AntiLibertyDude says. Harder to masturbate when you remind yourself that every time you watch porn, you might support human trafficking.

the way i made myself hate pornographers is by realizing most of them are jewish, and are controlled by the jews

Realizing the agenda behind it is one thing. It wouldn't have worked for me. An agenda does not make it harmful, but bad effects get worse if you can see an agenda behind it.

There is practically no way to ensure that the actresses in porn have not been coerced or cheated at some point. Both actions put it close to rape. They often have these nice interviews where the actors say how much fun they had, but if it's an interview before the scene, the script can be changed or they could withdraw consent later on. If it's after the scene, their paycheck hinges on them saying it was all fun and consensual. Perhaps they even convince themselves of that, to regain some of their dignity.

As for amateur porn, this can still be produced the same way, but even if it's fully consensual, you don't know if it was supposed to be uploaded and to whom. It can always be revenge porn. For a while, I exclusively watched amateur porn because I considered it at least more ethical than professional stuff, but at best, that's a matter of degree.

Then there are all the wasted hours browsing porn in the hopes that you find something that satisfies you, which you probably won't if you train your brain to demand constant novelty in sexual things. The escalation is real. One thing I also did, before I cut porn completely, was to watch stuff that was more erotic and less hardcore. It isn't good, but it's better. Cutting it is best.

All this bullshit about suppressed sexuality? First of all, all our animal drives are supposed to be suppressed at some level. You don't eat like a pig just because you are a little hungry, you don't beat a man to death whenever you're mad, and you don't masturbate every time you get horny. And second, if a healthy appetite means appreciating a good meal and not eating chocolate cake every day for breakfast, then a healthy sexual appetite means being able to appreciate bikini babes and not eating bdsm-gangbang-furry-porn for breakfast.

Speaking of which, averting your eyes from lingerie models and bikini babes is a decent spiritual exercise. Good habits usually start with small things.

>>the way i made myself hate pornographers is by realizing most of them are jewish, and are controlled by the jews

That reasoning is pretty backwards

It's not incorrect

If you research the history of pornography it's disgusting