Message from @NJT44
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ehm depends
If you have an absolute dictatorship with propaganda since birth, you could (if its secular)
The morality can be achieved and it holds completely real and true
Ikr. The morals are still based upon the religious values
However, there is no intrinsic source for it except for your own belief that it would benefit society or yourself to do so
yeah it stems from an unjustified axiom
I don't think so. But then, far as I know, the closest we've had to a secular/atheistic society is in communism.
And is the fearful living under a communist dictatorship equal to morality? I have my doubts.
@Gothik Extravaganza The comparison here is false
There are and have been many secular societies
And the attrocities of the Soviets did not stem from their lack of religion, but rather their own hunger for power
Mexico during the Cristeros war is a prime example of an anti theist state
I take the Czech Republic as the closest example of a good atheistic society
About 20% of the Czech Republic adheres to any sort of religion
And yet it is one of the most developed countries in the world
When I hear atheistic state it basically just means apathetic low T state
Judging a state of religious vs non by 'developed' isn't too relevant imo
@Eoppa agreed.
@Taggart tbh, most developed countries came to stand with a strong religious background. Now many are trying to stand on their own. Time will tell if the prophets were right in saying they won't last or not. And yes, communism is a terrible comparison because it is the godless religion. It represents all what is wrong with belief systems and none that is right.
I think that it is possible in theory, we would just need in place a structure to provide our people with community and morality that is large and widely followed. The problem with that is that a structure like that doesn't really exist other than religion. What would a structure like that even look like?
Secular/atheist morality is already being successfully practiced in many western cultures.
"successfully"
atheism is why we got into this mess
it doesn't explain why certain things that are bad on a societal scale are still bad things
"why can't I do this? I'm not hurting anyone!"
"successfully" shut the fuck up your jewish mindset is what has gotten us into the mess the world is in today fuck off @BorisBadenov
Jewish? Why do you let your imagination trigger you so. @Lekka
atheshits all have the same mindset of a kike, that being of materialism and a want to destroy and derazzinate
You’re a nut.
Letting your imagination control you shows what a loon you truly are.
> atheshits all have the same mindset of a kike, that being of materialism and a want to destroy and derazzinate
@Lekka this
atheists have little to no morals
precisely
Just words from the scared shitless.
I'm an atheist and I have a lot of morals. But I have to admit that I'm an exception, and not the rule.
I'm an atheist as well but the majority of them lack morals
thing is that religion is for the most part philosophy for the common man
depends what religion
I'm not calling the religious idiots or anything but you need some kind of guidework to develop morals