Message from @Ater Votum

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2020-02-15 17:08:37 UTC  

Creativity is a very good sign of intelligence, and yet it is not measured by IQ tests.

2020-02-15 17:08:46 UTC  

So you don't understand the schematic.

2020-02-15 17:08:56 UTC  

Didn't even read it.

2020-02-15 17:08:56 UTC  

Tbh

2020-02-15 17:09:16 UTC  

@Koninos intelligence causes you to be creative it's not merely high correlation.

2020-02-15 17:09:48 UTC  

@Deleted User Intelligence causes you to be creative indeed, but it also causes you to be many other things, that IQ tests cannot measure.

2020-02-15 17:09:48 UTC  

See the effectiveness of any of these mental endeavor, especially the more cognitively demanding ones (i.e., the ones that require you to “think”) will depend on an underlying mental “horsepower” so to speak. g is that horsepower on the top.

2020-02-15 17:10:44 UTC  

I have to go, I'll be back in an hour and get back to you two.

2020-02-15 17:11:38 UTC  

Understand the G hierarchy heretic!

2020-02-15 17:13:35 UTC  

Also would like to point out that creativity isn’t a process of reasoning but free association, and experimentation. Sure IQ may permit creativity but it doesn't permit reduction in systemic error, rent, parasitism, and predation.

2020-02-15 17:14:06 UTC  

If England, France, Germany, etc. purged its society of all nonwhites including Arabic Latins (they were conquered medieval era) the average IQ would shoot up around to 115.

2020-02-15 17:14:41 UTC  

15 points is gigantic.

2020-02-15 17:17:02 UTC  

@Ater Votum creativity is part of strategy and strategy is part of logic.

2020-02-15 17:19:29 UTC  

In what context?

2020-02-15 17:20:56 UTC  

It takes a degree of creative thinking to solve more nuanced problems.
It take a degree of creative thinking to invent something.

2020-02-15 17:21:18 UTC  

Creative thinking is good for when uniform solutions do not cut it.

2020-02-15 17:23:55 UTC  

Here is proof blacks and Arabs greatly decreased the world IQ the past 70 years.

2020-02-15 17:24:29 UTC  

"An average teenager today, if he or she could time-travel back to 1950, would have had an IQ of 118."

https://bigthink.com/surprising-science/are-people-smarter

2020-02-15 17:25:16 UTC  

The average young white person in 1950 was around 125 IQ. Israel was always very close to 100.

2020-02-15 17:27:39 UTC  

"Many countries made incredible gains in IQ scores during the 20th century, averaging three IQ points per decade.

Studies out of Europe have shown a reversal of this trend.

Such declines are not universal, and researchers remain unsure of what is causing them"

>((("UNSURE")))

2020-02-15 17:27:54 UTC  

@Coldfish In this sense, I think the consensus is, that there is no reason we can’t make everyone be creative.

2020-02-15 17:28:22 UTC  

@Ater Votum yes there is no reason we can't make the whole world Aryan.

2020-02-15 17:28:40 UTC  

Make the whole world methadone

2020-02-15 17:29:13 UTC  

@Ater Votum Not sure if it correlates with race, but many people are born with no ability to mentally visualise things and lack things like inner monologue which can hinder creativity greatly.

2020-02-15 17:32:46 UTC  

@Coldfish sounds like a chemical lobotomy.

2020-02-15 17:32:53 UTC  

@Coldfish but creativity refers to the application of one pattern of relations to a different circumstance thereby solving a previouslly unsolved problem, and a problem whose solution is not already present in the domain of solutions.

2020-02-15 17:33:05 UTC  

Isn't that right?

2020-02-15 17:33:12 UTC  

I said it hinders it.

2020-02-15 17:33:23 UTC  

How does it hinder it?

2020-02-15 17:33:48 UTC  

Visual thinking is helpful in many ways, even when applied to non-physical issues.

2020-02-15 17:34:00 UTC  

?

2020-02-15 17:34:05 UTC  

@Deleted User People I'm pretty sure are born like that.

2020-02-15 17:34:20 UTC  

That doesn't answer it at all

2020-02-15 17:34:44 UTC  

@Coldfish yes but for whites there must be a jew in the water supply. It's highly abnormal.

2020-02-15 17:35:00 UTC  

Nobody knows what causes this.

2020-02-15 17:35:15 UTC  

Must be some antipsychs and antideps in there.

2020-02-15 17:35:18 UTC  

We know this.

2020-02-15 17:35:31 UTC  

It ain't the water, I've had plenty of tap water in my youth

2020-02-15 17:35:45 UTC  

Though Flouride is known to have issues.

2020-02-15 17:35:51 UTC  

@Coldfish so it's you

2020-02-15 17:36:05 UTC  

Dude if these set of associations is what produces ‘aha’ moments in humans: How does it hinder it?