Message from @Lettow
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The only ones I can say "self-segregate", at least in my country, are Jews. But it is mostly due to religious and cultural reasons.
if by "self-segregating" you mean "forcibly removed from 109 host countries" then yes absolutely
I think South America is pretty mixed already so there's no segregation
Mixing already happened
To different degrees
mestizo
It sounds meaningless.
This girl is 50% black
phenotype is a funny thing isn't it...
Wait, what are we disscussing about?
I haven't seen anyone bringing this topic on rn.
Like, what sounds "meaningless".
yeah,scuse me, theres various discussions lol
We are talking about segregation in south America specifically
Im saying that the different definitions of mestizo are meaningless
They are meaningless nowadays, since the casta went away after the Spanish got rekt
mestizo used to mean half spanish half indigenous, it means mixed now
no matter the proportions
May I quote a paragraph of how the perception of Latin America countries perceive ethnic distinction by Villareal (2014)?
If not, I will try to resume it.
sure
"In contrast to Afro-Latin American countries such as Brazil, in Indo-Latin American countries, which include not only Mexico but most countries in Central America and the Andean region, the primary socially-recognized ethnic distinction between the indigenous and non-indigenous population is not based on phenotypical differences. The social boundary that separates the indigenous population is instead constructed around other criteria such as cultural practices, language use, and a subjective sense of belonging (Harris 1964; Pitt-Rivers 1968; Bartolomé 1997). Such criteria are used to distinguish what are often referred to as ethnic groups rather than racial categories"
100%
completely true, Lettow.
This may answer somewhat yo your question in a different way.
Since in Latin America country the disproportion of wealth is huge, the differentiations perceive by normal people, between ethnic groups, is mostly due to social factors. For example, I'm meztizo, but since I do locate in the middle class; I could consider myself white to other people.
yes and yes
Completely
How do you know all of this?
Normally I do investigate about it in NCBI.
Yeah that is true.
Thanks
If not, I decide to find studies by their name in Google, since most of the time they mentione other studies to further study.
I'm actually surprised about how you know this
This was also double edged btw
The Mexican government promoted the idea of "mestizaje" in all of the nation, adhering to the idea that Mexicans are a product of mixing between Spaniards and Natives
This means that even 100% Europeans or 100% Natives identify as "mestizo" in mexico sometimes
Being the default
It's mostly a cultural denomination
Still to make it clear, I'm not assuming that there is no difference in races, which in fact they do, but when we take racial PERCEPTIONS we reach a very different scope from simple biological studies.
Still I'm investigating, so I would not consider myself expert on the subject, maning I don't propose any course of action to it.