Then present the Criticism of it which you've learnt

I have.

It's function as a tool of control

of masses.

Well your criticism of idealism presupposes the falsity of idealism, thus you presuppose the falsity of a conclusion within the argument against the conclsuion, making it a fallacious argument

You don't ask autists to define autism.

@21ooAB Could you get involved here, please?

Or ask Schizophrenics what schizophrenia is

^

That's a non sequitor

Because their reality is altered

but it's their reality

No that's a non sequitor, ideologies are not the same as mental illnesses

Can you make your point for idealism

I tried

You're asking me to argue idealism from the perspective of an idealist

which is impossible

Well I'm yet to see a refutation of it. You said it was false, and your argument as to how it was false presupposed the falsity of the conclusion, which I assume you know is a fallacy. You cant presupose the falsity of a conclusion within the argument against that conclusion

Also I never demanded that. I demanded an argument against idealism which doesnt presuppose invalidity of idealism within one of its propositions

To suppose that idealism is real for a minute is to be an idealist entirely

That's just ridiculously wrong. I can epistomologically conceive of X without believing X

Varies on if you're an empiricist or not

Let's say it's a warm day

but you're cold

Can you conceive it's warm?

No because you're cold

You can make-believe all you want

it's still cold lol

You are a rationalist

I'm an empiricist

You can conceptually? But again i seem to be noticing a pattern that whenever you get cornered, you start derailing
So, let me ask again. You asserted X was wrong. I asked for evidence as to how X was wrong. Your argument against X presupposed the falsity of X within one of its propositions, therefore making it a fallacious argument. Do you have an argument that's not fallacious against the position you asserted that was wrong

It's human nature to derail when in bouts of confusion

Its a yes or no question, dude

So forgive me for being human

I haven't derailed, i've sticked to the topic in fact

Are you going to answer my question?

I didn't say you were

well you said it was human nature, and im human thus id be bound by that rule, and im evidently not since i havent derailed

are you going to answer my question though?

Its a simple yes or no question

I will answer your question

Alright, lets see it