I am asking where the coincidence comes from

How did other nations cause the 1933 famine, and the 1978-1982 famine, and why did they choose as the time precisely the moment the collectivizations started?

Let's look at North Korea for example

Economically, they were ahead of South Korea at the start.

I already gave my examples

We don't have any data on North Korea

Or nothing very reliable

Unfortunately I do not know enough about those famines to make an educated response

We know that their economy was stronger

At the start

Those are the two most important famines in the entire narrative

Until an earthquake hit

The Holodomor, and the Great Famine

Followed by a famine

Foreign Aid was denied

All you are saying is that famines can be caused by foreign intervention

I haven't studied the Holodomor I am ashamed to say as a Ukrainian

I do know some basics but nothing in depth

The Soviets didn't like the rich Kulaks I believe

And forced collectivization

Production fell, and rations were inplemented to smooth the shock

And Stalin executed the statisticians who reported Ukraine's population had fallen

That's about all I know though.

Something like that, yes

I am not a communist, I support the existence of private industry to make it clear

I just assert that they should not act against the interests of the nation

Such as outsourcing

Increase buying power

Ideally I want the economy to return to a state of power where a single person can work and support a family of 4, own 2 cars in a good house with still enough money for simple luxuries and vacation

As was possible in the 1950's

@AH-64 Is this wrong?

Your endgoal isn't, your methods are

Back then, the economy was freer than it is now

The top tax rate was also 90%

Something I imagine you're opposed to

How would you completely stop outsourcing, and allow a single person to work and support such a life

While keeping the population safe, educated, and healthy

That was the top marginal tax rate. It only applied to the dollars earned above 300,000 dollars or something. It wasn't the total tax rate for people in the highest income bracket.

You used to be able to raise a family with a good standard of living on a single working class wage in America

I am no expert in the US economy at the time, I only know from Germany that its market was definitely freer. With us, it was the same however, in 1950 you could raise a family with a working class wage, now you need two parents who are academicians. Here, taxes are to blame for that. You already pay 50% total taxes if your income is above 5k, which is a higher middle class income

A steeply progressive tax rate id argue is needed