Message from @AH-64
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@Ronin He hasn't really managed to conserve anything, but the people view him as a conservative, and that justifies my statement.
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How are foreign blockades the fault of socialism?
That is the fault of imperialism and interventionism
As I said: Every single blockade of the 20th century, those in Africa aside, occurred in a country at war and blockaded, or in a socialist country
Of other nations
Which is somehow only ever aimed against socialist countries?
Ideological battles, it has nothing to do with what is worse or better objectively
The reason the U.S has "In God We Trust" was not because they were extremely devout christians
But because of ideological battle
Do you have any proof, a single proof, to back that up?
They wanted to be the polar opposite of the CCCP
Russia started a collectivization campaign right before the 1933 famine
China started one right before the 1978 famine, including the communal kitchen campaign
I did not say I supported collectivism
You did say the famines were the result of imperialism and interventionism from other nations
Not fully, but it certainly didn't help
Why did the two biggest successes of the CIA-Famine-Taskforce occur right after a collectivization campaign?
Huh?
Sorry I am unfamiliar with that
How did other nations cause the 1933 famine, and the 1978-1982 famine, and why did they choose as the time precisely the moment the collectivizations started?
Let's look at North Korea for example
Economically, they were ahead of South Korea at the start.
I already gave my examples
We don't have any data on North Korea
Or nothing very reliable
Unfortunately I do not know enough about those famines to make an educated response
We know that their economy was stronger
At the start
Those are the two most important famines in the entire narrative
Until an earthquake hit
The Holodomor, and the Great Famine
Followed by a famine
Foreign Aid was denied
All you are saying is that famines can be caused by foreign intervention
I haven't studied the Holodomor I am ashamed to say as a Ukrainian
I do know some basics but nothing in depth
The Soviets didn't like the rich Kulaks I believe
And forced collectivization
Production fell, and rations were inplemented to smooth the shock