Message from @valencia/Vaida

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2020-03-09 18:22:57 UTC  

And was governed by Arab officials.

2020-03-09 18:23:22 UTC  

That land should be Palestine. And it was illegal what the UN did in 1948

2020-03-09 18:23:41 UTC  

^

2020-03-09 18:23:52 UTC  

To put the issue in a kindergartener-like nutshell, it’s a debate of whether the Jews get dibs or the Palestinians can call no-takebacks

2020-03-09 18:24:04 UTC  

wait so you saying there should be only Palestine @valencia/Vaida

2020-03-09 18:24:41 UTC  

I personally disagree with ceding Israel to Palestine in 2020, since that would cause another conflict, and more violence.

2020-03-09 18:24:46 UTC  

They were there long before Israel

2020-03-09 18:24:50 UTC  

But what the UN did in 1948 was illegal indeed.

2020-03-09 18:25:09 UTC  

but Jews were more longer @valencia/Vaida listen I wouldn't have problem if there would be two states

2020-03-09 18:25:48 UTC  

but not for now the Palestines don't deserve a country in 2020

2020-03-09 18:26:08 UTC  

???

2020-03-09 18:26:24 UTC  

If the Palestinians don't deserve a country, then the Jews don't deserve one either.

2020-03-09 18:26:38 UTC  

i said they don't deserve in 2020

2020-03-09 18:26:46 UTC  

only for now

2020-03-09 18:26:51 UTC  

Why?

2020-03-09 18:26:59 UTC  

^

2020-03-09 18:27:30 UTC  

because they doing terrorist and they giving money for the terrorists

2020-03-09 18:27:42 UTC  

it is true

2020-03-09 18:29:02 UTC  

> because they doing terrorist and they giving money for the terrorists
@DylansIQ

Okay that's actually a very incomplete statement. They do not support terrorists like ISIS, yet they do support radical organizations or militias in Iraq and Syria, because these groups support them as well. Palestine is in a situation where its enemies are extremely strong, so it need friends. So its friends are the muslim countries and muslim groups.

2020-03-09 18:29:26 UTC  

Not to mention that the Palestinians are violent because the Jews are violent as well. Every action causes a reaction.

2020-03-09 18:29:32 UTC  

^

2020-03-09 18:29:47 UTC  

The initial action was Israel's invasion of Palestine.

2020-03-09 18:29:53 UTC  

And the reactions haven't stopped ever since.

2020-03-09 18:30:22 UTC  

Yeah, they only will continue until one or both are wiped out

2020-03-09 18:30:25 UTC  

wait so would you have problem if a Palestinian terrorist would kill Jews? @Koninos

2020-03-09 18:30:34 UTC  

Yes.

2020-03-09 18:30:40 UTC  

ok

2020-03-09 18:31:07 UTC  

what about where they teaching their kids how to kill Jews this is what they doing in Gaza

2020-03-09 18:31:17 UTC  

No that's an absurd claim.

2020-03-09 18:31:46 UTC  

They do not teach their children to kill Jews, of course not. Yet their children grow up by parents who hate Israel, but they have every right to do so.

2020-03-09 18:31:46 UTC  
2020-03-09 18:33:03 UTC  

listen this is what happen in timeline in 1948 there was the first war where seven armies attacked Israel right? I'm just saying

2020-03-09 18:33:48 UTC  

I can't see how that justifies your initial claim.

2020-03-09 18:34:00 UTC  

listen just listen

2020-03-09 18:34:38 UTC  

I am all ears.

2020-03-09 18:34:54 UTC  

and in 1967 this is how Israel was look like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587028275918929925/686643194636664866/MFAJ0d2e0_.png

2020-03-09 18:35:24 UTC  

Gaza was control by Egypt

2020-03-09 18:35:47 UTC  

and Jerusalem was control by Jorden

2020-03-09 18:35:55 UTC  

ok?

2020-03-09 18:36:18 UTC  

Jerusalem was a neutral territory, Jordan controlled the territories marked in orange.

2020-03-09 18:36:23 UTC  

Go on.