at least by the people in charge.

Turkey is undeniably a shithole

@Ronin what do you think far rights?

?

you mean what I consider far right?

People that want to reverse the current status quo beyond what the regular right wants to do.

The afd is hardly radical

It's literally all lite

Alt

AFD is controlled opposition

I mean

There's a lot of alt-right mishaps happening in the AfD

If anyone here speaks German, there's this report by our interior int'l
```https://netzpolitik.org/2019/wir-veroeffentlichen-das-verfassungsschutz-gutachten-zur-afd/#2019-01-15_BfV-AfD-Gutachten_A```

it has a lot of information about why the AfD is radical

yeah most European parties are somewhat infected

I don't think any party that genuinely wants to fix things would be allowed

ikr

I'm a member of the lib party here

>German Lib party
why
or is this like the liberal swedes were the liberals aren't insufferable 白左

Why be a liberal when you can be helpful to everything good and stop spreading everything bad

@OrthoGoat Define liberalism

the idea that individuals exist, the idea that individualism should be enforced, the idea that people are naturally equal, and the idea that all people wish to be individualized and equal

heil hitler

>the idea that individuals exist
So people aren't real?

kek

thing is

not everyone is equal

Sure, you can strive to be. You can make sure everyone is treated fairly. But, equality will never become globalized, no matter how hard you try. It is more of a flaw than an actual benefit.

>the idea that individualism should be enforced
No idea what that means.

>the idea that people are naturally equal
Depending on how you define equality, any ideology can pass or fail this test. No libertarian believes all people have equal worth, no communist believes they have equal height. Christians believe all men are equal in that they are called to God, and share a certain human nature.

>and the idea that all people wish to be individualized and equal
This just extends the unclarity

If you dont understand, it is better to ask questions first and gain some kind of ground before posting critique

It's not that I don't understand, it's that I *cannot* understand with the information he gave me

I am already waiting for him to clarify it further

And some of that stuff is outright absurd. To say that individuals don't exist is an absurdity. Clearly, individual humans are real, just as individual hairs are real, and individual grains of sand are real. If he said that these individuals require a community to be fulfilled, that would have not been absurd, for example.

Liberalism is what I call the anarchist ontology. It reframed history to create a very ahistorical and heretical way to view authority.

Treating the state as a necessary evil, unnatural but inevitable completely separating the public and private.

weren't you an ancap like 2 months ago?

it's not uncommon for people to bail on ancap

i turned to the hoppean fash pipeline

Indeed, ancap is a failed ideology

I think 1 Samuel 8:5-22 is scriptural proof that the state really is a necessary evil

@Sentient23 I hate Hitler