For the politicians, I agree.

For the citizens, not at all.

double passport is double loyalty

Not necessarily.

Paper =/= loyality.

^

it's part of the loyaltyu

No.

a lot of countries actually ban double passport

You can have a US passport and hate your country.

Like I do.

https://youtu.be/174SurFsMDw

Ngl

The west deserves the refugee crisis

A lot of countries are ruled by idiots.

you would be surprised how many migrants keep loyalty to their old nation

I'd be surprised if you proved that.

I mean fuck I reject my own nation as well

And although it's true, it's not the migrants' fault, really. But the state's.

@Koninos I think I showed you this picture once.
All of the people in this image hold both a Turkish and Dutch passport.

Mass immigration and poor integration techniques.

oh fuck off not this shit again

Okay. What does that prove, apart from the fact that they love their nation?

Their old one, whatsoever.

That doesn't mean anything about their loyalty, not necessarily.

And the fact that they have a Dutch passport alone, proves nothing.

Yes it does.

What does it prove then?

They have a passport, they are a citizen, they can vote, they are the 5th pillar.

Okay. So?

Right now, locally, they are able to subvert Western ideals of religious and personal freedom.

Sharia courte, unofficially, are used to settle disputes between members of their ethnic group.

As this problems worsens, it will move to the national stage.

While people like you cheer and welcome the barbarians coming through the gates.

How are they able to subvert Western ideals of religious and personal freedom? The migrants who are loyal to the nation they originate from alone, are too few. In my opinion, they shouldn't be able to vote, but that's another story. If you keep accepting these people, in specific, in massive amounts, it sure will move to the national stage. But we're at stage 1 and the national stage is stage 100. And we're not moving to the next stage that quickly, either. And yes, I cheer and welcome the immigrants that come through my gates, because if I don't, they'll turn to people loyal to their old nation in no time.

I won't comment on the fact that you called them barbarians, I think that's beyond stupid, really.

That is a metaphor.

Metaphor or not, my point stands.

Though i dont care what you think should happen, i care for what is happening. If that was indeed the case, why are they under represented in all aspects of social service? Police, nursing, military, care?

Because they're our citizens, obviously?

As long as they're our citizens, they're under our protection.