Message from @Deli.v2

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2019-12-28 21:12:19 UTC  

because they were fighting people who were resisting

2019-12-28 21:12:28 UTC  

You don't destroy a city because it resists.

2019-12-28 21:12:34 UTC  

and that is justified in my opinion

2019-12-28 21:12:43 UTC  

you can

2019-12-28 21:12:48 UTC  

It's a justification, but a very bad one.

2019-12-28 21:12:49 UTC  

and do

2019-12-28 21:12:57 UTC  

why is it bad

2019-12-28 21:13:02 UTC  

because you think so?

2019-12-28 21:13:19 UTC  

just call everything against yo bad?

2019-12-28 21:13:36 UTC  

i literally dont see a reason why it isnt justified

2019-12-28 21:14:22 UTC  

he wasn't just attacking resistance though, he deliberately demanded the whole city be bombed wherever activity is discovered, civilian or not

2019-12-28 21:14:38 UTC  

@Koninos the citizens of the city aren't German so why should Germans care

2019-12-28 21:14:59 UTC  

literally why would that matter

2019-12-28 21:15:08 UTC  

he was fighting resistance

2019-12-28 21:15:32 UTC  

You're telling me, that levelling a city because it has enough courage to resist, is a proper justification? How? Such terrible actions are only justified when they have done the same to your cities as well.

@Deleted User Germans or not, people are people, and Innocents shouldn't be treated like pieces of meat.

2019-12-28 21:15:43 UTC  

I don't think middle class families just trying to live their lives are "resistance"

2019-12-28 21:16:11 UTC  

literally had a warsaw uprising

2019-12-28 21:16:17 UTC  

@Koninos why does the fact they are people mean anything?

2019-12-28 21:16:31 UTC  

clearly a resistance movement

2019-12-28 21:16:35 UTC  

what the fuck

2019-12-28 21:16:43 UTC  

they resisted for a reason y'know

2019-12-28 21:16:52 UTC  

sure

2019-12-28 21:16:57 UTC  

@Deleted User It is morally and ethically wrong to do so, and from a strategic viewpoint, it's unnecessary.

2019-12-28 21:17:00 UTC  

but how is there no resistance

2019-12-28 21:17:04 UTC  

you tell me

2019-12-28 21:17:23 UTC  

There is resistance, but there's also a bunch of people who do not resist, because they don't really care, and want to live their lives.

2019-12-28 21:17:41 UTC  

exactly

2019-12-28 21:17:58 UTC  

Yes, you kill off the resistance, not everyone.

2019-12-28 21:18:12 UTC  

he didnt kill everyone

2019-12-28 21:18:14 UTC  

what the fuck

2019-12-28 21:18:17 UTC  

...

2019-12-28 21:18:22 UTC  

bruh

2019-12-28 21:18:39 UTC  

I mean that he killed both people from the resistance and Innocents.

2019-12-28 21:18:40 UTC  

@Koninos why is it immoral? Potentially it has strategic advantages, because it could reduce war support

2019-12-28 21:20:05 UTC  

okay because you definitely can screen correctly who is actually innocent or complacent

2019-12-28 21:20:20 UTC  

if they did they wouldve probably crushed any resistance in seconds

2019-12-28 21:23:15 UTC  

@Deleted User Killing people who didn't harm you, don't fight back, and don't really care if you're gonna annex their nation or not, killing people who just wanna live their lives is obviously unethical. There's simply no reason to do so.
Strategically, levelling a port could have a few advantages. But levelling a capital, with no Sea access, which is very close to your capital, isn't efficient at all. Hitler did so to pass a message, but his cruelty passed a very different message than the one he wanted to pass.

@Ater Votum You get a land force, police or army force, organize it, haunt down the rebels, torture them or publicly hang them, and the message is passed. Many rebels will desert. You just keep searching for them day and night. You don't kill random people, hoping that some of them might actually be rebels. It's unethical and stupid.

2019-12-28 21:41:05 UTC  

they took over Paris and didn't kill everyone.

2019-12-28 21:41:19 UTC  

if they were truly genocidal they would have razed the place like mongols

2019-12-28 21:43:13 UTC  

Cruelty begets cruelty, and the allies reaped what they sewed.

2019-12-28 21:51:56 UTC  

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