Message from @WEDTDOON

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2020-02-15 04:30:12 UTC  

The EU can't adequately make a reaction test for driving as it would end up conflicting with human rights and anti discrimination laws

2020-02-15 04:30:59 UTC  

but driving a vehicle isn't a human right

2020-02-15 04:31:21 UTC  

Well my position remains, if you've never been properly tested (that obv includes reaction time especially in emergency situations) you are a danger to yourself and your surroundings. You should not be able to drive and your license is useless to me.

2020-02-15 04:31:45 UTC  

I dont care if the laws of your state/province are retarded

2020-02-15 04:31:53 UTC  

But being free from discrimination is, if your reaction speeds could medically be shown to be too low as a result of age, anything preventing you from driving based on that would fail under EU law

2020-02-15 04:32:24 UTC  

The same with any disability or such

2020-02-15 04:33:01 UTC  

EU law is stupid

2020-02-15 04:33:04 UTC  

Lol

2020-02-15 04:33:28 UTC  

Seems to work to an extent

2020-02-15 04:33:45 UTC  

You are acting like driving is a right

2020-02-15 04:33:52 UTC  

The EU has much safer roads than the US anyway

2020-02-15 04:34:32 UTC  

Apprently EU citizens dont age as they get older 🤷‍♀️

2020-02-15 04:34:56 UTC  

I think only some of the ex soviet eastern european countries have road safety bordering on American road dangers

2020-02-15 04:35:09 UTC  

Lithuania and Poland come to mind but i could be wrong

2020-02-15 04:36:00 UTC  

I think, for example, you're less than half as likely to die on German roads as US roads, despite more dense traffic, narrower roads and similar speeds

2020-02-15 04:36:38 UTC  

But that's likely down to the actual licensing process that is significantly more difficult than probably anywhere in the US or CA

2020-02-15 04:37:07 UTC  

Also better vehicle safety requirements/inspections

2020-02-15 04:37:38 UTC  

And heavier monitoring of licenses and insurance

2020-02-15 04:40:06 UTC  

You'd probably make your roads a lot safer arguing for better vehicle inspections, more challenging licensing and replacing intersections with roundabouts/traffic circles

2020-02-15 04:41:34 UTC  

Germany: 4.1 deaths per 100k, USA 12.4

2020-02-15 04:42:03 UTC  

what would make licensing more challenging, in your opinon?

2020-02-15 04:43:15 UTC  

Well, I can't speak for the German test but the UK one has a 2 stage paper test on the highway code and then "hazard perception" which is a video you click whenever you spot a hazard and again if you need to change speed or direction

2020-02-15 04:43:27 UTC  

The practical is usually around 40 minutes

2020-02-15 04:44:02 UTC  

What?

2020-02-15 04:44:04 UTC  

Oh

2020-02-15 04:44:04 UTC  

Uh

2020-02-15 04:44:08 UTC  

Uk*

2020-02-15 04:44:14 UTC  

Thought you said us for some reason

2020-02-15 04:44:15 UTC  

It includes basic car inspection checks, parallel parking, reversing/bay parking, emergency stop and attempts to test some degree of driving in a range of different roads

2020-02-15 04:44:32 UTC  

Also

2020-02-15 04:44:50 UTC  

I believe every EU and UK license distinguishes between automatic and manual

2020-02-15 04:45:02 UTC  

If you pass in an auto, you cannot legally drive a manual

2020-02-15 04:45:09 UTC  

Manuals however permit both

2020-02-15 04:45:44 UTC  

Add to that the EU having crazy yearly vehicle inspections

2020-02-15 04:46:02 UTC  

Belgium is super restrictive, as is Germany

2020-02-15 04:46:24 UTC  

Things like engine swaps are basically impossible if the engines weren't originally in that model of car

2020-02-15 04:46:56 UTC  

One of the EU countries allows a +/- 25% displacement change

2020-02-15 04:47:52 UTC  

Almost every eu country checks for car roadworthiness, so rust that affects structural rigidity, suspension not leaking, brakes being good enough, all stuff like lights and shit working properly

2020-02-15 04:48:07 UTC  

Most also test emissions

2020-02-15 04:48:33 UTC  

Oh and have minimum tire tread requirements

2020-02-15 04:48:50 UTC  

I'd say that is something that should definitely exist in the US