Message from @LOGiK

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2020-02-15 04:27:26 UTC  

Yes everyone's reaction speeds are tested

2020-02-15 04:27:32 UTC  

How?

2020-02-15 04:28:48 UTC  

A lot of states just have you drive around the block and park and you get a license, along with a basic exam on road signs and shit

2020-02-15 04:28:55 UTC  

Reactions aren't tested at all

2020-02-15 04:29:20 UTC  

that why you do the advanced driver training, i did 3 of them

2020-02-15 04:29:23 UTC  

So the laws are stupid and obsolete

2020-02-15 04:29:36 UTC  

The UK has hazard perception, but that doesn't test reactions as much as it tests awareness and is such a controlled test that it's not realistic

2020-02-15 04:30:12 UTC  

The EU can't adequately make a reaction test for driving as it would end up conflicting with human rights and anti discrimination laws

2020-02-15 04:30:59 UTC  

but driving a vehicle isn't a human right

2020-02-15 04:31:21 UTC  

Well my position remains, if you've never been properly tested (that obv includes reaction time especially in emergency situations) you are a danger to yourself and your surroundings. You should not be able to drive and your license is useless to me.

2020-02-15 04:31:45 UTC  

I dont care if the laws of your state/province are retarded

2020-02-15 04:31:53 UTC  

But being free from discrimination is, if your reaction speeds could medically be shown to be too low as a result of age, anything preventing you from driving based on that would fail under EU law

2020-02-15 04:32:24 UTC  

The same with any disability or such

2020-02-15 04:33:01 UTC  

EU law is stupid

2020-02-15 04:33:04 UTC  

Lol

2020-02-15 04:33:28 UTC  

Seems to work to an extent

2020-02-15 04:33:45 UTC  

You are acting like driving is a right

2020-02-15 04:33:52 UTC  

The EU has much safer roads than the US anyway

2020-02-15 04:34:32 UTC  

Apprently EU citizens dont age as they get older 🤷‍♀️

2020-02-15 04:34:56 UTC  

I think only some of the ex soviet eastern european countries have road safety bordering on American road dangers

2020-02-15 04:35:09 UTC  

Lithuania and Poland come to mind but i could be wrong

2020-02-15 04:36:00 UTC  

I think, for example, you're less than half as likely to die on German roads as US roads, despite more dense traffic, narrower roads and similar speeds

2020-02-15 04:36:38 UTC  

But that's likely down to the actual licensing process that is significantly more difficult than probably anywhere in the US or CA

2020-02-15 04:37:07 UTC  

Also better vehicle safety requirements/inspections

2020-02-15 04:37:38 UTC  

And heavier monitoring of licenses and insurance

2020-02-15 04:40:06 UTC  

You'd probably make your roads a lot safer arguing for better vehicle inspections, more challenging licensing and replacing intersections with roundabouts/traffic circles

2020-02-15 04:41:34 UTC  

Germany: 4.1 deaths per 100k, USA 12.4

2020-02-15 04:42:03 UTC  

what would make licensing more challenging, in your opinon?

2020-02-15 04:43:15 UTC  

Well, I can't speak for the German test but the UK one has a 2 stage paper test on the highway code and then "hazard perception" which is a video you click whenever you spot a hazard and again if you need to change speed or direction

2020-02-15 04:43:27 UTC  

The practical is usually around 40 minutes

2020-02-15 04:44:02 UTC  

What?

2020-02-15 04:44:04 UTC  

Oh

2020-02-15 04:44:04 UTC  

Uh

2020-02-15 04:44:08 UTC  

Uk*

2020-02-15 04:44:14 UTC  

Thought you said us for some reason

2020-02-15 04:44:15 UTC  

It includes basic car inspection checks, parallel parking, reversing/bay parking, emergency stop and attempts to test some degree of driving in a range of different roads

2020-02-15 04:44:32 UTC  

Also

2020-02-15 04:44:50 UTC  

I believe every EU and UK license distinguishes between automatic and manual

2020-02-15 04:45:02 UTC  

If you pass in an auto, you cannot legally drive a manual

2020-02-15 04:45:09 UTC  

Manuals however permit both

2020-02-15 04:45:44 UTC  

Add to that the EU having crazy yearly vehicle inspections