Message from @Fitzydog

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2020-02-09 17:04:51 UTC  

@Mips based agorism

2020-02-09 17:05:19 UTC  

@Broo TulsiGang 2024 πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ you honestly thought that even if remain won there would have been reforms and not just business as usual? You sure were optimistic.

2020-02-09 17:05:26 UTC  

EU is good for farmers. Subsidies baby !
Money for leaving your land Fallow !

2020-02-09 17:05:42 UTC  

Guaranteed Price, No Competition from Africa etc

yes I still am an optimistic kinda guy

2020-02-09 17:06:02 UTC  

@Fitzydog I mean, they profit, alot, and I get to pat myself on the shoulder

2020-02-09 17:06:42 UTC  

@Jam Roll LOL, yes, ofc they do, in thirdworld parts of the EU

2020-02-09 17:07:00 UTC  

@Jam Roll Tbf, you need to leave land fallow for a while to recover

2020-02-09 17:07:16 UTC  

Or just unused

2020-02-09 17:07:30 UTC  

1977 - Explaining Communist Central Planning - also known as the EU Common Agricultural Policy (CAP)
Fucking idiots.
https://youtu.be/AR65IzjgfQU

2020-02-09 17:07:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/676112067454959629/83758246_713712385828380_6647270654376673280_o.png

2020-02-09 17:08:03 UTC  

I may have the details not 100% correct, wrt leaving land fallow I admit

2020-02-09 17:08:05 UTC  

it just didn't work out that way

2020-02-09 17:08:24 UTC  

Sure, the EU was a good idea

2020-02-09 17:08:28 UTC  

that got cucked

2020-02-09 17:08:53 UTC  

@Jam Roll It's the government and markets that expect farmers to pull off miracles and use their land every single year for decades straight

2020-02-09 17:09:24 UTC  

I mean, crop rotation has been a standard for a few hundred years no?

2020-02-09 17:09:35 UTC  

@Fitzydog We had sugar mountains, Butter Mountains, Grain Mountains. Good old Commie central planning.

2020-02-09 17:09:50 UTC  

Crop rotation isn't as commonly used as you think

2020-02-09 17:10:04 UTC  

@Fitzydog we're required to do it by law

2020-02-09 17:10:05 UTC  

Just throw more fertilizer on it

2020-02-09 17:10:25 UTC  

Ffs we're putting fertilizer in tree stands now

2020-02-09 17:10:39 UTC  

or else the government fines you and takes your land

2020-02-09 17:10:50 UTC  

That sounds wonderful

2020-02-09 17:11:22 UTC  

Gotta love those Commie's. That vid I posted was 1977 btw. Explains the CAP

2020-02-09 17:11:37 UTC  

Or the past few years drought, can't produce because mother nature? You should've had that in mind, now pay a fine to the EU for underproducing

2020-02-09 17:12:06 UTC  

I'm glad I don't live in the EU

2020-02-09 17:12:15 UTC  

Sounds like a nightmare of beuracracy

2020-02-09 17:12:20 UTC  

It is

2020-02-09 17:12:33 UTC  

I'm sure it is for industrial production too

2020-02-09 17:12:43 UTC  

I'm just used to the agricultural side

2020-02-09 17:14:31 UTC  

Forestry too

2020-02-09 17:14:34 UTC  

it's nuts

2020-02-09 17:14:39 UTC  

Step 1 remove subsidies/govt insurance
Step 2 promote farm estate planning and foundations
Step 3 market products that use sustainable farming practices and "fertilizer and pesticide free"

2020-02-09 17:15:30 UTC  

Step 4 tariff foreign products of the same type already produced

2020-02-09 17:15:45 UTC  

I reckon the EU will fall soon enough

2020-02-09 17:16:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372507611284766722/676114259532578841/1581266299441m.jpg

2020-02-09 17:17:06 UTC  

the fact that there exists stuff like the schengen agreement is proof enough tbh

2020-02-09 17:18:23 UTC  

The estate planning portion is most important, because the subsidies and insurance exist due to farmers leaving land fallow and not producing.

So you save your earnings from previous years to pay for your costs when you're not producing, and it's paid to you in installments.

Kind of like unemployment insurance

2020-02-09 17:19:21 UTC  

Actually, that could be the incentive to not overwork your land. You don't get your money back until you are not producing

2020-02-09 17:32:55 UTC  

The issue with the last one is essentially the EU does that or outright bans the import in favor of internal bloc sources.