in all terms, the form of currency is labour vouchers, not money

that was only due to the leaders pushing to try and compete with other nations, but if you look into their industries, they did not consider safety, and used sub-standard materials and building techniques

hence why Soviet-era military equipment is a laughingstock to this day

@LadyAquanine yes, due to stalinist policies and their determination not to get left behind by the west, I don't support stalinism or Marxism-leninism

good

@LadyAquanine the USA was industrialized at the beginning of the Great War, the Russian empire was agrarian

comparing developing economies to developed economies isn't really an arguement tbh

pardon me, but where are you from?

singapore

oh, that explains it

?

Singapore has a unique way of governing compared to a lot of nations

yes we do

we don't allow corporations to intrude in the government

the poor are taken care off

nobody is homeless

like you can't have a certain # of kids, or there are very strict regulations regarding agriculture

agriculture is basically just roof gardens and vertical farming in singapore

we don't have enough land

they say farming of the future will look like that

it sure is

the Netherlands are experimenting with vertical farming right now

it's true, corporations should really get their noses out of the govt.

yea, I think capitalism is good and all, but there are flaws in it. Historical examples prove our transition to socialism is inevitable

whether it takes hundreds or thousands of years

I never said it was perfect, it's just the only system that sort of works

we already tried the feudal system

monarchies

it's the only system which works until we begin to transition to socialism

just remember something, not all prices are paid with money

what sort of price did people in Singapore pay to have no more homeless on the streets?

@LadyAquanine history was like this. Feudalism to laissez faire capitalism, laissez faire capitalism to mixed economies currently, mixed economies to ________?

@LadyAquanine what do you mean?

when a social program is enacted, there needs to be money to support it

the people being supported by the program are not gonna be paying it, so who is?

people paying taxes

out of our treasury, butvthe tax rate here is much lower than other nations

that leads to having less money to spend with your paycheck, and it gets ugly when 80% of your paycheck goes towards taxes

and people are still homeless in said nations

you end up not having as much money for anything, really

we do