Message from @Leiro レイロ

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2018-10-18 09:42:49 UTC  

everything else is the same

2018-10-18 09:43:02 UTC  

we obviously don't advocate for computers to rule as in every aspect

2018-10-18 09:43:16 UTC  

good

2018-10-18 09:43:18 UTC  

that would be scary

2018-10-18 09:43:28 UTC  

again, I've seen stuff like that on sci-fi shows

2018-10-18 09:43:33 UTC  

and in movies

2018-10-18 09:43:36 UTC  

and in books

2018-10-18 09:43:54 UTC  

true

2018-10-18 09:44:08 UTC  

but just saying, us socialists don't advocate for things like that

2018-10-18 09:44:17 UTC  

only economics as such should be calculated

2018-10-18 09:44:23 UTC  

I remember watching a SeaQuest episode where the crew found two children raised entirely by computers

2018-10-18 09:44:53 UTC  

they were anti-social, didn't like being touched, cold, had no idea how to interact with other human beings, and played games that had real-life consequences involving giant robots

2018-10-18 09:45:01 UTC  

btw @Donaldus Triumphus im not a fascist anymore

2018-10-18 09:45:06 UTC  

yay!

2018-10-18 09:45:08 UTC  

so remove role

2018-10-18 09:45:20 UTC  

I only belive in a couple of things now

2018-10-18 09:45:42 UTC  

you would never find someone in the socialist bloc who's socially conservative like me

2018-10-18 09:46:06 UTC  

I believe in market socialism, libertarian and democratic socialism now

2018-10-18 09:46:21 UTC  

then you must be a rarity

2018-10-18 09:46:59 UTC  

that's because there are different types of socialist thought

2018-10-18 09:47:18 UTC  

capitalism is a relatively abstract political ideology set in stone

2018-10-18 09:47:31 UTC  

while for socialism, there are many types of socialist thought

2018-10-18 09:47:38 UTC  

no two socialists share the same values

2018-10-18 09:48:54 UTC  

I used to be believe in conservatism and capitalism when I was a right-winger, but those days are gone

2018-10-18 09:49:16 UTC  

what changed?

2018-10-18 09:50:19 UTC  

Well, even as a rightist, I was always critical of capitalism from the start

2018-10-18 09:52:08 UTC  

I used to believe in the more reformist sects of capitalism, to ensure that it benefits all and not just the business owner

2018-10-18 09:52:38 UTC  

but I was always discriminated by my fellow brethren for that

2018-10-18 09:53:01 UTC  

as well as the nonsense of some right-wingers made me question my values

2018-10-18 09:54:25 UTC  

plus, I delved more and studied more about socialist thought

2018-10-18 09:56:34 UTC  

beware that there is a Siren buried in there

2018-10-18 09:56:42 UTC  

she has murdered many on the rocks of reality

2018-10-18 09:57:15 UTC  

siren?

2018-10-18 09:58:57 UTC  

you've never heard of sirens?

2018-10-18 09:59:05 UTC  

the mythical kind?

2018-10-18 09:59:33 UTC  

the ancient Greeks believed in a type of supernatural creature called a Siren, who had a bird's body and a woman's head

2018-10-18 09:59:49 UTC  

they lived on rocky islands in the Aegean Sea, and sung beautiful songs that lured sailors to their doom

2018-10-18 10:00:19 UTC  

the sailors would be mesmerized by the songs, and forget what direction their ships were going, and eventually the ships would be destroyed on the rocks of the islands the sirens lived on

2018-10-18 10:00:26 UTC  

later depictions of Sirens made them resemble mermaids

2018-10-18 10:00:50 UTC  

they still sang that lethal song and lured men to dash their ships on the rocks, though

2018-10-18 10:01:42 UTC  

in the Odyssey, Ulysses had his crew tie him to the main mast of his ship and plug their ears with beeswax so they could steer the ship safely past the islands of the Sirens, and at the same time, he could listen to their song without consequences