Irrelevant?

"saying fascism and socialism are both collectivist, strong government intervention in the economy"

>A form of socialism

not socialism exact

What qualities do they share?

Strong government intervention
Collectivism

Collectivism?

Yes

they;re both collectivist

Socialism is not just government intevention in the economy

Well it is really lol

either means of the production owned by the state or workers

No

yes

thats the defintion

of socialism

It's only socialism if the workers control the means of production

no it's both

state

and workers

Fascists generally believe in a mixed economy

except that fascism is the state control of the economy and other things

so are they fascists?

🤔

You might be right

I'm not saying fascism is literally identical to socialism

I'm saying it's a form of socialism

It may have different goals and different procedures slightly

Technically, I suppose.

People say

"But aren't fascists anti socialist, they hate them"

Socialism vs Fascism is what Sunni vs Shitte is between Muslims

Either way they both suck

Fascists are anti-Marxist

Capitalism > all

yeah

thats where they differ slightly

I think fascists are economically left and socially far-right

You can have non Marxist """socialism"""

probably @Anon365

They are economically centrist