Message from @VaporIcecream (On Hiatus)

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2018-11-27 20:16:40 UTC  

prices are falling

2018-11-27 20:16:48 UTC  

especailly in the most economic free states

2018-11-27 20:16:52 UTC  

TN got a 30+% fall

2018-11-27 20:16:55 UTC  

Prices are going up lmao, not down

2018-11-27 20:17:25 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/517071471424700416/Screen_Shot_2018-11-22_at_18.55.07.png

2018-11-27 20:17:39 UTC  

Sorry but the stats disagree:
Overall, the United States saw an average premium decrease of 0.83% from 2018 to 2019 plans:

19 states posted premiums declines.
13 states saw increases of between 0% and 5%.
For states that use the federal Healthcare.gov platform, the decline will be even better, with premiums dropping 1.5% on average.
On the other end, there were only six states to post double-digit increases for benchmark premiums: Vermont, North Dakota, Delaware, Washington, Hawaii, and New York. Washington, DC, also posted a 16.13% jump.

2018-11-27 20:17:44 UTC  

Obamacare was a joke, and so is whatever bastardized version of whatever hell Trump has planned

2018-11-27 20:17:47 UTC  

now trump has to deregulate

2018-11-27 20:17:52 UTC  

and de tax more

2018-11-27 20:17:53 UTC  

Nope

2018-11-27 20:18:05 UTC  

getting the government out of healthcare well make it the best healthcare market

2018-11-27 20:18:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/517071692816842761/Screen_Shot_2018-11-27_at_20.18.11.png

2018-11-27 20:18:21 UTC  

Except thats not how it works

2018-11-27 20:18:29 UTC  

since theres something called price mechanism

2018-11-27 20:18:36 UTC  

and the fact that firms compete

2018-11-27 20:18:43 UTC  

Capitalism isn't even in the medical market

2018-11-27 20:18:48 UTC  

probably only in the innovations side

2018-11-27 20:18:56 UTC  

not in the healthcare/insurance itself

2018-11-27 20:20:25 UTC  

America is literally the only country in the developed world that does not provided free universal Healthcare. The average medical bill is grossly overpriced in ratio to the production value of medical supplies and pay rates for medical workers.

2018-11-27 20:20:37 UTC  

Actually

2018-11-27 20:20:38 UTC  

Any form of market is inherently capitalist

2018-11-27 20:20:40 UTC  

Lol

2018-11-27 20:20:40 UTC  

Singapore doesn't either lol

2018-11-27 20:20:41 UTC  

no

2018-11-27 20:20:42 UTC  

lol

2018-11-27 20:20:48 UTC  

just because it has a market doesn't make it capitalist

2018-11-27 20:21:01 UTC  

if the state is intervening hard it;s socialism/fascism/corporationism etc

2018-11-27 20:21:13 UTC  

Few countries don't provide universal

2018-11-27 20:21:15 UTC  

but again as I said

2018-11-27 20:21:27 UTC  

America doesn't have a free market healthcare system

2018-11-27 20:21:33 UTC  

When it does it'll be the greatest

2018-11-27 20:21:53 UTC  

We've seen your socialist regulations and such on the market and every year prices increasing, Obamacare price hikes were huge

2018-11-27 20:23:39 UTC  

America's Healthcare system is a failure and shouldn't be privatized. And Obamacare was a failure in that instead of creating true universal health care, it mandated that every citizen was responsible for providing their own insurance coverage and were required to have it. Of course the capitalists would price hike to take advantage of such predatory regulations.

2018-11-27 20:24:02 UTC  

𓅜 ॐ Vapσr ♡ Icє-crєam 🜖⇶Today at 20:23
America's Healthcare system is a failure and shouldn't be privatized.
It's a failure because it isn't private

2018-11-27 20:24:10 UTC  

and it's literally socialised

2018-11-27 20:24:25 UTC  

Obamacare was a failure because of more regulations added onto the market, raising prices ans such.

2018-11-27 20:25:04 UTC  

Even then America has very low waiting times

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/517073398191357972/Screen_Shot_2018-11-27_at_20.24.57.png

2018-11-27 20:25:19 UTC  

and the best innovation and one of the best quality

2018-11-27 20:25:24 UTC  

despite being over regulated

2018-11-27 20:25:26 UTC  

over taxxed

2018-11-27 20:25:29 UTC  

third party payer system