Message from @UNITE THE RIGHT

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2018-12-09 19:14:45 UTC  

lets be real a lot of socialists use that argument too

2018-12-09 19:14:51 UTC  

i believe true capitalism has been tried

2018-12-09 19:15:43 UTC  

Of course

2018-12-09 19:15:58 UTC  

There was an entire era of it

2018-12-09 19:16:29 UTC  

and it was genuinely shitty for everyone who wasnt wealthy or atleast middle class

2018-12-09 19:16:41 UTC  

Not to mention Austrians can't differentiate between a type of market system and a mode of production

2018-12-09 19:16:57 UTC  

well what we have now is arguibly more capitalist than a few decades ago

2018-12-09 19:17:04 UTC  

due to the 1980s and neoliberalism

2018-12-09 19:17:18 UTC  

>neoliberalism

2018-12-09 19:17:22 UTC  

Keynesian economics too

2018-12-09 19:17:39 UTC  

i dont necessarily support neoliberalism anyway

2018-12-09 19:17:44 UTC  

All neolibs are scum, gonna say that now.

2018-12-09 19:17:44 UTC  

Literally capitalism with the government helping out

2018-12-09 19:17:49 UTC  

^

2018-12-09 19:18:02 UTC  

What exactly is a neoliberal

2018-12-09 19:18:06 UTC  

the thing with neoliberalism is that they take it too far

2018-12-09 19:18:11 UTC  

I always here it mentioned

2018-12-09 19:18:23 UTC  

i believe we can have capitalism but we dont need to ignore anything and everything a government can do to help

2018-12-09 19:18:26 UTC  

but I've never really seen a proper definition

2018-12-09 19:18:30 UTC  

government can actually help capitalism

2018-12-09 19:18:34 UTC  

This video goes into neoliberalism

2018-12-09 19:18:58 UTC  

Just classic liberalism?

2018-12-09 19:19:11 UTC  

in a free market there are distortions that need to be addressed, and they are distortions of perfect competition so technically its not a good representation of the free market and has to be fixed

2018-12-09 19:19:28 UTC  

Basically it's the state suppressing the market to protect profits.

2018-12-09 19:19:34 UTC  

and wasnt Reagan a neoconservative

2018-12-09 19:19:56 UTC  

Both are 2 sides of the same coin anyway.

2018-12-09 19:20:08 UTC  

or Paleo conservative

2018-12-09 19:20:38 UTC  

one thing with capitalism is lobbying, we need to keep money out of politics

2018-12-09 19:20:55 UTC  

otherwise we end up with prison-industrial and military-industrial complex

2018-12-09 19:21:25 UTC  

already there are large corporations receiving subsidies and effective corporate welfare from the government

2018-12-09 19:21:37 UTC  

for the same reason i oppose most forms of welfare i oppose corporate welfare too

2018-12-09 19:22:02 UTC  

The prison industrial complex is so shameful and inhuman...

2018-12-09 19:22:15 UTC  

its a waste of human potential

2018-12-09 19:22:18 UTC  

It's basically slave labour

2018-12-09 19:22:31 UTC  

It's literally slave labour

2018-12-09 19:22:33 UTC  

they shouldn't imprison people for minor drug charges,

2018-12-09 19:22:40 UTC  

Strasser had a solution to this

2018-12-09 19:22:44 UTC  

if they legalised drugs there would be less reason for gangs etc

2018-12-09 19:23:11 UTC  

i actually condemn drugs, in the same way i condemn cigarettes but banning it isnt a good solution

2018-12-09 19:23:28 UTC  

You need to fix the socio economic issues in inner cities to remove gangs