Message from @Neco2040

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2019-01-16 20:46:58 UTC  

increasing tax rates don't increase revenue all the time

2019-01-16 20:46:59 UTC  

As long as it remains competitive with other countries, you don't have to worry about them moving to other countries

2019-01-16 20:47:04 UTC  

infact it can cause revenue to decrease

2019-01-16 20:47:15 UTC  

But they don't remain competitive, nobody has a 70% tax rate

2019-01-16 20:47:16 UTC  

Yeah, if it's like a 95% effective rate

2019-01-16 20:47:34 UTC  

no

2019-01-16 20:47:38 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441728840025374731/535198468982177833/th_22.jpeg

2019-01-16 20:47:40 UTC  

it's why this exists

2019-01-16 20:47:50 UTC  

If the effective rate is similar to other developed country, you don't have to worry about a loss in revenue

2019-01-16 20:48:17 UTC  

so you want a 70% tax rate even though you'll tax the rich less

2019-01-16 20:48:18 UTC  

logic

2019-01-16 20:48:19 UTC  

?

2019-01-16 20:48:31 UTC  

So why exactly do we want a 70% tax rate

2019-01-16 20:48:42 UTC  

nice number

2019-01-16 20:48:44 UTC  

Maximize the money people and companies have and minimize how much the federal government has

2019-01-16 20:48:50 UTC  

🗿

2019-01-16 20:48:56 UTC  

if it 1. Doesn't actually tax that high
2. Taxes the rich lower
3. Deters the foreign investment due to face value
4. Decreases revenue

2019-01-16 20:48:57 UTC  

I honestly don't feel like arguing with someone who is arguing in bad faith

2019-01-16 20:49:01 UTC  

How is it bad faith

2019-01-16 20:49:04 UTC  

^

2019-01-16 20:49:10 UTC  

I already told you I don't want a 70% tax rate

2019-01-16 20:49:18 UTC  

Then how high

2019-01-16 20:49:31 UTC  

Probably closer to 45%

2019-01-16 20:49:34 UTC  

Why?

2019-01-16 20:49:41 UTC  

You do realise thats above the EU average

2019-01-16 20:49:42 UTC  

Because I am fiscally responsible

2019-01-16 20:49:49 UTC  

the US is below the Eu average by 2 points

2019-01-16 20:49:57 UTC  

@hcaez I was talking about removing loop holes for rich people to use and get through taxes and making to tax rates flat for everyone

2019-01-16 20:50:00 UTC  

Not really, reducing tax rates spurs economic growth

2019-01-16 20:50:02 UTC  

higher revenues

2019-01-16 20:50:11 UTC  

thats really hard to do

2019-01-16 20:50:13 UTC  

and more money for the individual

2019-01-16 20:50:16 UTC  

like take bezos for example

2019-01-16 20:50:17 UTC  

it's idealist

2019-01-16 20:50:19 UTC  

he makes 80k a year

2019-01-16 20:50:30 UTC  

80k?

2019-01-16 20:50:33 UTC  

even though his real income was billions

2019-01-16 20:50:34 UTC  

Yes

2019-01-16 20:50:37 UTC  

ye after avoidance

2019-01-16 20:50:42 UTC  

Yes, it spurs economic growth when you cut taxes for working people

2019-01-16 20:50:43 UTC  

oooh