Message from @🌼Kalina🌹🌸🌹Zay🌹🌸🌹Scott🌼

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2018-05-24 17:50:07 UTC  

We already established this, the base instinct of any living being is to reproduce and survive. This means they do not want it at least on a bare level.

rather than because you believe it is righteous

2018-05-24 17:50:35 UTC  

Want being used for lack of a better word.

2018-05-24 17:51:07 UTC  

So that brings us back to the question of what places our ownership over animals and plants.

2018-05-24 17:51:45 UTC  
2018-05-24 17:51:49 UTC  

Perhaps ownership is not involved at all.

well then argue from an argument of righteousness which you said was 'humans are superior'

2018-05-24 17:52:35 UTC  

@Scholarly Wisent ???????????????????????
Did you even read a single word I said?

2018-05-24 17:52:50 UTC  

I'm arguing from the beginning.

we did and we're logically dissecting it and discovering that it doesn't stand to scrutiny

we're asking you for an argument which is different that *does* stand up to scrutiny

2018-05-24 17:54:41 UTC  

"It was a hypothetical argument to cannibalism. We afford more ownership to humans than animals in every instance aside from criminals."
Hypothetical humour in response to your poke at my joke

2018-05-24 17:54:47 UTC  

If ownership is not involved, then we are back on the drawing board for what defines cannibalism as wrong but not eating plants and animals.

2018-05-24 17:55:58 UTC  

Which may as well be simply argued as morality but that leads to many more barriers of pure arbitrary.

2018-05-24 19:17:58 UTC  

Are the communists arguing in favor of cannibalism?

2018-05-24 19:18:42 UTC  

🤷

2018-05-24 19:32:05 UTC  

No we aren't you idiot.

2018-05-24 19:32:12 UTC  

An Elbow pretty much did though

no we're not

we're trying to logically dissect an argument

sometimes to really test a belief you have to put it to its moral extremes because humans tend to change their mind at that point and act morally inconsistent

2018-05-24 19:37:14 UTC  

Oof

2018-05-24 19:40:46 UTC  

I wasn’t accusing you of doing so I was asking because I’m not going to read an argument I wasn’t involved in

@Ben Garrison tl;dr sumarry
an elbow:
Humans should eat animals because we're superior and that's objective
Me and Wisent:
How are humans objectively superior?

add in some random thought experiment about *what if there's something superior to us*

2018-05-24 19:52:08 UTC  

I don’t think it’s difficult to argue the superiority of humans but that’s hardly a reason to eat animals

I mean a better argument would be something objective and something people cannot disagree with such as we need to eat animals for our very survival and all biological species prioritize their own self-preservation.

2018-05-24 22:20:26 UTC  

@Donaldus Triumphus donald trump did peace all right

2018-05-24 22:20:40 UTC  

He should get nobel peace prize

2018-05-24 22:25:11 UTC  

@Ben Garrison donald trump deserves 5 nobel peace prize

2018-05-24 22:25:18 UTC  

he put peace in the korean peninsula forever

2018-05-24 22:25:31 UTC  

Why did you tag me

2018-05-24 22:32:25 UTC  

i am telling you

2018-05-24 22:32:32 UTC  

what trump deserves

2018-05-24 22:35:55 UTC  

Thanks for the input

2018-05-24 22:38:09 UTC  

Also i like to annoy you @Ben Garrison

2018-05-24 22:38:18 UTC  

NAZI SCUM

2018-05-24 22:38:23 UTC  

HA GOT EM

2018-05-24 22:38:30 UTC  

Pinging me is a great way to do that, especially when you have nothing to say

2018-05-24 22:38:35 UTC  

wait

2018-05-24 22:38:38 UTC  

read this