The USSR was socialist because the workers owned the means of production through workers councils. Does Venezuela have this? **no**

What would you call the Venezuelan system, heavy handed state capitalism?

That's why the USSR is alive and thriving today and everyone is trying to migrate to it because socialism is amazing right?

@Ben Garrison it's just normal capitalism.

It’s very clearly not “normal capitalism” as 9/10 people associate capitalism with laissez-faire policies.

@Boethiah Gorbachev abolished the USSR and implemented capitalist reforms

also during 1990 referendum around 76% of the USSR populations voted to keep the USSR

but it was abolished anyways

@Ben Garrison according to your logic, the USA isn't capitalist

A lot of people do argue that it’s lost a lot of its “true capitalist” touch. I’m not saying Venezuela or the United States aren’t capitalist, all I’m saying is that you can’t call Venezuela something like “normal capitalism” whatever that means

@Ben Garrison is the USA capitalist?

don't give the "it's not capitalist, it's corporatist" excuse

Yes. Not totally laissez-faire though, and I’d never use the phrase normal capitalist since most people would associate that with laissez-faire policy

It’s not corporatist though, who would say that lmao

@Ben Garrison most ancaps would

Ancaps are special people

lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/295604804292575233/472066449372872735/1527861293293.png

Corporatism is much more third positionism. I think most capitalist detractors of the current state of the US economic structure would call it crony capitalism instead of corporatism

@Ben Garrison well remember according to fascists, corporatism is really just social democracy with protectorate policies

(don't worry i've watched cultured thug)

I don’t know who that is

a fascist youtuber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsAIuAMjzsc

im gonna go

bye

USA isn’t REAL capitalism. It’s only transitional

lol

When it becomes a utopia then we will say it’s real

Well I'm going to go, it's like 3 am here in the shithole you call Communist China

Goodnight gents

@Donaldus Triumphus thanks for making my shoes and shitty dust collectors over there lol

Inb4 Donaldus is part of the 50 cent army

gnight

Maybe the China Uncensored 50-Cent Army

50 cent army you say?

Why’s the white guy worth billions and the black guy worth $.50?

Thoughts on prison system reforms?

Reinstitute the penal colony system tbh

We could always take the islands China is building and populate with convicts for 500 years and then decide what to do after. Keep it to single sex islands and let them govern themselves so long as they remain on the island. After a time they can become autonomous if they civilize. Would make death penalty pointless since they are away