you clearly dont know what welfare is

this is a subsidy

so is a tax break Welfare? we all got trump welfare from him lowering our taxes?

lol

this guy , SMH

He helped his base

by harming them from a trade war he started

😂

dude are you fucking with me rn

BAIL OUTS ISNT WELFARE SAID THE MAGA GUY

Literally what a bail out is the government giving financial assistance to a company who is facing a bankruptcy or financial crisis

How

is

that

not

welfare

FDR did this exact thing 😂

because they werent hurting or in a financial crissis

this is just helping his fam

Obama did it

and it was successful, when he bailed out GM, i was against it for free market reasons but for it for competitions and jobs reasons, It wasnt a free market issue though it was corruption by bad management, the new GM is running just fine. Worth the investment, and it was paid back.

🤦

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-gm-treasury/u-s-government-says-it-lost-11-2-billion-on-gm-bailout-idUSBREA3T0MR20140430

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Economic benefits have outweighed that loss

its not even close

it saved Michigan

1.5M jobs might outweigh it, it may not, but there's no excuse to be made for losing 12B$ from this bail out

That's a shit ton of money

we could have forced them to pay the full amount, that was obama croney's short selling still have to look at the big picture

just...……………. 😤

whatever man

I dont doubt you are a patriot man! I tend to look at things on a case by case basis, and not try to make sweeping generalizations

you make very good points

honestly i dont remember going at it with someone in a while so this was good, regardless of our thoughts and opinions

it frustrates me to talk trade with "conservatives" who believe in protectionism. Thats not what a conservative is.

conservativism is a broader spectrum than you think

not really

the outside of it is populism

which isn't conservatism by any stretch of the imagination

It's more rooted in a left leaning ideology than anything else really