Message from @wahx

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2018-10-05 23:33:45 UTC  

And it would be hard to re-make an institution quickly in response to something... that seems remarkably inefficient

2018-10-05 23:34:05 UTC  

I know they would try, but in such a case that things like the CIA would simply not go over seas, they would work purely on our shores unless needed otherwise to protect our soil

2018-10-05 23:34:35 UTC  

I agree

2018-10-05 23:34:43 UTC  

also reforming an institution such as the NSA is far quicker than you might expect, getting to a highly efficient cost per dollar is another thing

2018-10-05 23:34:58 UTC  

might I suggest a video to watch? this might help a lot

2018-10-05 23:34:59 UTC  

How is it far quicker than I might expect? where are you pulling that from?

2018-10-05 23:35:00 UTC  

sure!

2018-10-05 23:35:50 UTC  

Like don't get me wrong I don't know that the FBI, CIA, and NSA are as efficient as they should be. But how would anybody else know that either? It's some of the effing most secretive organizations in existence.

2018-10-05 23:36:49 UTC  

various places like Emergency systems that don't exist otherwise already have a basis but just arent running. and PragerU rather a youtube channel, a little more biased to the right in educational content than I prefer but i like them.

2018-10-05 23:37:23 UTC  

wait what does PragerU have to do with this

2018-10-05 23:37:34 UTC  

I seriously loathe their video on morality

2018-10-05 23:37:59 UTC  

oh that's who you recommend

2018-10-05 23:38:15 UTC  

my point, more biased than I prefer just something to watch, I couldn't find the video but they have many things that explain this like taxes and big government

2018-10-05 23:40:28 UTC  

I don't like PragerU mostly due to their lack of introspection. Rarely in their videos do I hear "We believe this to be the case" or "although there is the possibility that" which is a huge red flag, lack of self awareness and critical thinking. They seem to think very strongly about things which I generally associate with stubbornness and stupidity. The geniuses I have met are confident, but constantly addressing nuances in issues rather than painting things as easy or obvious.

2018-10-05 23:40:57 UTC  

idk, I'm willing to have my mind changed about them though

2018-10-05 23:41:07 UTC  

If there's a few good videos I missed

2018-10-05 23:41:22 UTC  

if I can find it, it pertains specifically to this, i will dm it to you

2018-10-05 23:41:35 UTC  

It doesn't feel like they're exploring issues so much as just showing someone one perspective as though it's true

2018-10-05 23:41:43 UTC  

and these issues are far too complicated for that kind of reduction

2018-10-05 23:41:57 UTC  

obviously there are pros and cons to a large government, those nuances need to be explored not minimized

2018-10-05 23:42:10 UTC  

yeah send err

2018-10-05 23:42:43 UTC  

I don't believe as much that big governments are good, at least for the basis of america

2018-10-05 23:43:24 UTC  

for other countries it may be seen s better but with Americans the spirit, as we brits learned, don't like big government or excessive taxes

2018-10-05 23:44:39 UTC  

Americans have always resisted big government and excessive taxes, that's true. But tradition does not equal goodness, kindness, efficiency, or worth in any sense. But it does mean it should be considered seriously.

2018-10-05 23:45:34 UTC  

Traditions may exist for a reason, that reason should be examined. In the case of taxes, I can see the point that high taxes feel very disconnected from social improvement, because of the distance states feel from the government due to the size of america

2018-10-05 23:45:47 UTC  

But I don't think we should have higher taxes, really

2018-10-05 23:45:55 UTC  

I think the rich should have higher taxes.

2018-10-05 23:46:04 UTC  

The ultra rich mind you.

2018-10-05 23:47:21 UTC  

I guess that gets at what I think is the biggest problem of our time: wealth inequality.

2018-10-05 23:47:29 UTC  

though it has been tried, and enforced during a rather important time. The Great Depression, an awfully large government was in place to help make things better. And it did but with very little efficiency. As well as other places it has been done to an even greater extent and only proven the american Idea or at least supported it. Such as communism, an awfully big government coming with excess in just about every facet of it's income. And tyranny coming with it

2018-10-05 23:47:47 UTC  

and if I could just say something about wealth ineqaulity

2018-10-05 23:48:13 UTC  

Yeah implementations of communism have been disastrous, I agree.

2018-10-05 23:48:22 UTC  

For sure dude say everything you want to say.

2018-10-05 23:48:34 UTC  

Dude or dudette or dudex lol

2018-10-05 23:49:53 UTC  

Wealth Inequality is a large problem, but not near as big or as seen as portrayed. With the system in place in the United States it is a system of wealth growth and unequal wealth rather than under larger governments, at least in tendency, unequal or equal amounts of poverty

2018-10-05 23:50:40 UTC  

Sorry can you elaborate on that second sentence it confuses me

2018-10-05 23:51:00 UTC  

But basically you're saying it's not affecting us very badly

2018-10-05 23:51:18 UTC  

of course

2018-10-05 23:51:22 UTC  

and dudette

2018-10-05 23:52:47 UTC  

what do you make of this graph

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418667927169138688/497919115009327114/Screen_Shot_2018-10-05_at_4.52.32_PM.png

2018-10-05 23:54:47 UTC  

With the economic system in the United States and slight decrease in size of government and decrease in taxes alongside national debt, the United States has people living in poverty growing to better living state. Even if they continue to live in poverty, they are going up in income and living quality. This is true for all three of the economic classes in the united states and other countries though rarer in other countries. It is an odd saying but if I need to clarify further please ask. Unequal wealth