Message from @𝕡𝕦𝕘𝕤𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ducc

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not exclusive, but some of the most preventable mistakes happened due to socialism

2018-10-30 07:01:57 UTC  

how so

2018-10-30 07:02:19 UTC  

i doubt poor planning and the incompetency of the workers had to do with socialism, that woolen t be the case

for example when they failed to inform anyone of the incident, when the staff was poorly trained

of course it did

2018-10-30 07:03:09 UTC  

so where exactly does socialism indicate to train workers poorly, as well as to not inform the international community and secrecy?

2018-10-30 07:03:22 UTC  

that was poor leadership

which is due to socialism

2018-10-30 07:03:52 UTC  

almost every leader aftee brezhnev was due to poor leadership, these leaders were dying anyway, the SU needed a new generation of leaders, not socialism

2018-10-30 07:04:05 UTC  

they still lived during the revolution you see

2018-10-30 07:04:31 UTC  

they needed a new generation of leaders, yuri andropov was the last hope to reform the Union

under putin, Chernobyl would have never happened

for example

because in a capitalist democracy, people care about money

they don't need to in communism

2018-10-30 07:05:26 UTC  

no as I said, incompetency of a specific group of workers isn't a cause of a economic system

it is

2018-10-30 07:05:51 UTC  

communism has no money, why do you need money when you have achieved post scarcity? @𝕡𝕦𝕘𝕤𝕪 𝕥𝕙𝕖 ducc

it's because their wages do not depend on how good their work is

2018-10-30 07:06:30 UTC  

lol, I disagree with their fixed wage system, but again, it was a few wrong reforms.

yeah that's it, dismiss it as a few bad reforms

2018-10-30 07:07:34 UTC  

no, during the 60s, there was this huge debate on how to reform the economy, it was a piece-wage system which depended on short term intensive growth periods to sustain itself

2018-10-30 07:08:15 UTC  

a few leaders fucked up, and the collapse of the Union began to show itself in the late 70s, which isn't the product of socialism, but poor leadership

2018-10-30 07:08:38 UTC  

there would be poor leadership regardless of any system, its not exclusive to socialism

just imagine a system in which bad reforms mean catastrophic nuclear fallout<:FalloutTrump:475766832117186560>

2018-10-30 07:08:50 UTC  

yea and so?

2018-10-30 07:08:56 UTC  

alr said it wasn't mutually exclusive

2018-10-30 07:09:06 UTC  

the USA did some pretty horrible things to.

2018-10-30 07:09:20 UTC  

like engaging in imperialism to safeguard their economic interests

would you have wanted to live in 70s SU?

sorry imperialism

2018-10-30 07:09:38 UTC  

no, the mid 50s and 60s, not the 70s.

don't bs me about imperialism when talking about SU

they had

literal colonies

the SSR's

count as colonies in the dictionary

2018-10-30 07:10:18 UTC  

do you even know what's a SSR?

Soviet Socialist Republic

yes I know

2018-10-30 07:10:33 UTC  

these 15 republics made the Soviet Union, they weren't colonies