From Fusion GPS

I'm not speaking necessarily to the information itself, but the willingness of Trump Jr. to say, yeah, sure let's get the help of Russia to win this election

which is conspiracy

and, in my mind, at least unintentional treason

And all of this, mind you, is not proof of crimes

But, it is plenty of reason to start an investigation

“ Emails: Lawyer who met Trump jr. tied to Russian officials “
By Raphael Satter on AP Associated Press

Natalia Veselnitskaya representing Prevezon Holdings on behalf of the sole owner Denis Katsyv, hired BakerHostetler to represent them against charges of money laundering and violating The Magnitsky Act. In 2014 Baker hired Fusion GPS to dig up opposition research on Bill Browder, author of the Magnitsky Act, and a witness central to the U.S. Justice Department’s case against Prevezon. Fusion was working with Veselnitskaya at the same time they hired Christopher Steele on the behalf of the Clinton campaign to extract damaging information on Trump from his contacts in Russian intelligence. They were also still working together during the Trump Tower meetings . Meeting the day before, and after that event. Fusion GPS has demonstrated that they have no moral compass, and have directly colluded , in a years long professional relationship, with Veselnitskaya, who represents a Russian oligarch tied to Putin and the murder of Magnitsky.

Knowing that Fusion GPS is basically a morally bankrupt corporation of Intelligence mercenaries, can we trust them as a source of truth on those they’re hired to slander?

Something to consider.

http://archive.today/BWyrS

I know all this, what is your point?

It’s not illegal information. And like I said, not charges from the FEC have been filled. No crime

The whole point of an investigation is to see if a crime has been committed. I repeat what I said earlier: I'm not accusing anyone of 100% committing a crime. I'm saying that there is ample reason for investigation to make sure of this.

Also, if you've been following the news, you'd know that Mueller doesn't say shit to the media. The only person talking about this in the news, who isn't a part of the news, is Trump, his administration, and those connected to him.

So if you're upset with how this is being played out in the media, it's not Mueller's doing.

We already know what happened regarding that exchange of information. That it happened. The FEC hasn’t charged Trump because Information isn’t a violation

the FEC hasn't charged Trump with conspiracy because that is not their jurisdiction.

This is why the US Postal Service hasn't charged Trump with conspiracy: that's not how shit works.

Somebody offing you information in a meeting isn’t a conspiracy

The Russian government offering you information in a meeting is.

or it's at least grounds for a comprehensive investigation to see if it is

It’s not a crime to take information from someone regardless of who that have connection with.

That's not true

That's why we have crimes like conspiracy and treason

because that's just not fucking true

Conspiracy is only a crime when attached to a crime. Treason has nothing to do with any of this.

"If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both." Working with a foreign power whose intention is to disrupt american politics, is indeed a conspiracy because the intent is to defraud the United States.

Wrong

Taking information from a Russian doesn’t fall under treason. That’s absurd.

That was about conspiracy

That didn’t happen. No offense against the US . No defrauding. Just information on Clinton donors

Disruption of American politics isn’t a crime.

The Russian government wanted to disrupt and polarize the american public. They reached out to the Trump campaign to help with this activity. The trump campaign accepted. This is the situation in a nutshell. This is grounds for investigation.

That isn’t true.

A foreign power interfering in our elections isn't a crime?

Nobody has proven that at all

that's what the investigation is for

If by interfering you mean talking shit about Clinton and her people, no that isn’t illegal.

Keep the goals in mind, their goals are illegal

these are their methods

Russians I mean

You’re arguing for an investigation to FIND a crime.

That’s why I’m saying you want to live in a fascist police state.

I fundamentally disagree with you

Again, I have presented the grounds for an investigation being: The Russian government wanted to disrupt and polarize the american public. They reached out to the Trump campaign to help with this activity. The trump campaign accepted. I do not want a police state, I want a sketchy meeting investigated

It’s sad I’m having this conversation with another American.